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Old 10-31-2013, 02:37 PM
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Prison Planet.com » Police shot unarmed man, drove an armored truck through his door when he did not exit his property on command

SPRINGFIELD, VA — A paramilitary force was dispatched to a man’s townhouse after his girlfriend reported a domestic dispute. When he stubbornly chose to stay inside his home, police shot him and drove an armored truck through his front door.

The situation began on August 29th around 2:40 p.m. when John Geer — a 46-year-old kitchen designer and installer — was told by his girlfriend that she had decided to leave him. The couple had two daughters together, ages 13 and 17. Emotionally distraught over the breakup, Geer exacerbated the situation by throwing her belongings onto the lawn of their townhouse.
This led to her calling the police. She informed the dispatcher that he owned a firearm. A SWAT team was sent to the quiet cul-du-sac.
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dont **** with our police (as in mine: Fairfax County), they seriously have nothing better to do.

Dont worry; it'll be justified, he probably threatened the cop with the screen door or probably asked for a warrant to enter the house.
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And now for something completely different, because this doesn't belong in the "The World Is Not As Bad As You Think It Is" thread.

Shot in face, Texas cop still chases down and handcuffs suspected gunman: - NY Daily News

Ann Carrizales, 40 — an officer with the Stafford Police Department — took two bullets, including one in the cheek, during a routine traffic stop outside Houston early Saturday. The wounded cop still managed to get into her car and follow the suspects until the alleged gunman was arrested.

Read more: Shot in face, Texas cop still chases down and handcuffs suspected gunman: - NY Daily News
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This kind of **** is one of the top reason I'm getting out of here ASAP and moving to live with our more sane northern neighbors in Canada. The police are supposed to work for US, and protect and serve US. Instead they are a group that work for each other, and protect one another and sweep the truth under the rug to protect one of their own. When one of them do something wrong, they might get a slap on the wrist and a few days on paid suspension or some ridiculous "punishment". They are there to do a dangerous job, which they knew when they signed up. They should do everything in their means to avoid killing a civilian, including putting their life at risk. Instead they shoot to kill at the first sign of any kind of violence towards them or one of theirs. That is not how it's supposed to ******* work. You're right, it is sickening. The Police States of America. If you don't like it and speak out, the government will spy on you and pin some nasty false charges on you.
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I was talking with a few people my age about this (22) and every single one of them said and i'm just going to summarize here. "we don't do their job, so we can't judge. If a police officer tells you what to do, you have to do it".(well i pay their salary, so i have the right to know and judge) Then i'll argue that ANY killing, beating, assault, harassment, ect. of an unarmed person is WRONG. Not only do they disagree with me, they think it's okay to shoot a handcuffed woman, or beat an unarmed homeless man to death. But they think that it's justified even when it's only a SUSPENSION of a wrongdoing. They HONESTLY believe that if you're walking down the street it is okay for the police to stop, arrest you, and shoot you if you resist just if they feel like it. "It's the law, and we must submit to them always".

My generation is brainwashed and fucked.

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To add to this, i will honestly admit i was completely ignorant about this. I used to think "oh yeah the cops shot the bad guy, win for America, justice has been served". But that was when i was 15 and before i could make a rational thought. Now i can think about things, and see how wrong that way of thinking is. It's a problem, no one in this country should have to die at the hands of lawn enforcement those who are sworn to protect us. Not only that, but violate our rights as Americans.

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Agreed.

We are all indoctrinated, as a people.

**** this world.

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Originally Posted by Erat
To add to this, i will honestly admit i was completely ignorant about this. I used to think "oh yeah the cops shot the bad guy, win for America, justice has been served". But that was when i was 15 and before i could make a rational thought. Now i can think about things, and see how wrong that way of thinking is. It's a problem, no one in this country should have to die at the hands of lawn enforcement those who are sworn to protect us. Not only that, but violate our rights as Americans.
I've found that the older I get, the more pessimistic I become. Which is bad, because I was already a super pessimist as a teenager.

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Agreed.

We are all indoctrinated, as a people.

**** this world.

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You're in Australia, what do you have to complain about?

I guy I know recently moved to Australia from here. He is enjoying it so much more than this **** hole.
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We have far less civil liberties than you guys have in day to day encounters with police.

It;s illegal to NOT self incriminate in Australia, you can be charged with say, wheelspin, and on the side of the road give you a piece of paper with all these questions and if you DO NOT self incriminate you get a charge for not self incriminating.

We have to stop for breath tests, we cannot refuse to consent to searches, nothing.

No warrants required for anything (almost) we are such sheep we let the govt take any liberties they want without even a peep.

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Originally Posted by nitrodann
We have far less civil liberties than you guys have in day to day encounters with police.

It;s illegal to NOT self incriminate in Australia, you can be charged with say, wheelspin, and on the side of the road give you a piece of paper with all these questions and if you DO NOT self incriminate you get a charge for not self incriminating.

We have to stop for breath tests, we cannot refuse to consent to searches, nothing.

No warrants required for anything (almost) we are such sheep we let the govt take any liberties they want without even a peep.

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Penal Colony Problems.

Good post though, the point of this thread (after I took over), is to remind people that America is in danger of becoming like places like Australia.

America is unusual because it was the first country that established a Constitution that told the gov't what it could or could not do; and gave the citizens inalienable rights. We are free to do whatever we want unless there's a law the prevents it, our gov't/police can not do anything unless there's a law that says they can.

Our founding principles are what made us the great powerful nation we are, our liberal principles are what are making us more like Australia and other shitty countries everyday.
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Lawsuit: Ark. Cop Chased and Tased Woman After She Refused to Show Him Her Breasts | Alternet

A city cop in Arkansas chased a woman through her workplace, shooting a Taser at her, because she refused to show him her breasts, the woman claims in court.

Ashlea Bennett sued the City of Haskell, Ark. and its police Officer Brandon Carter, in Federal Court.

She claims Carter "demanded that she expose her breasts to him" after he entered her workplace while on duty and wearing his uniform.

"Carter's demands to the Plaintiff to expose herself to him occurred multiple times," she says in the lawsuit.

It continues: "That the Plaintiff refused to show her breasts to Carter.

"That, upon her refusal, Carter drew his City of Haskell-issued electroshock Taser weapon from his utility belt, pointed the weapon at plaintiff, and threatened to deploy the same against her if she would not expose her breasts to him.

"That, upon seeing the threat of unlawful force, the plaintiff took physical flight and ran from Carter."

Officer Carter then "proceeded to physically chase the plaintiff through her place of employment," the complaint states.

It continues: "That, while chasing the plaintiff, Carter activated and deployed his electroshock Taser weapon in 'drive stun' mode numerous times at or directed at the plaintiff. That Carter did these actions with the intention of causing fear, imminent fear of bodily harm, and/or emotional distress to gain the plaintiff's compliance with his sexual demands."
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This is what the Sheriff's Dept. in my town does on the weekends:

One of my employees is married to a Deputy Sheriff. She described to me what her husband does on weekends and it pissed me off to no end. I live in ******, * a city in serious economic depression. There is a lot of property crime here. 1/2 the houses in many neighborhoods are boarded up and/or being squatted-in by the homeless. The city and county budget has been decimated in recent years, resulting in steep cuts to services for the needy and disabled. Since I work in social services I see firsthand the effects of these cuts and it pisses me off, yet, hearing how the Sheriff's Dept. spend their weekend pissed me off even more.

There are three casinos nearby, each is 30-50 miles from the jail/courthouse. On Friday and Saturday nights the Sheriff's Dept. sends 5-man teams to one of the casinos nearby to conduct prostitution stings. Two deputies monitor the situation from a 'control room,' one deputy acts as the 'john' and one deputy is there for the specific purpose of transporting those arrested from the casino to the jail (60-100 miles round trip).

The team pays for two rooms and the 'john' receives money to gamble with while he scouts the casino for possible prostitutes. So, 5 salaries (+ overtime), gas for three vehicles, two rooms, and gambling money is being spent to bust two, maybe three, prostitutes per night, transport them to county, and see them be released two hours later on a charge that doesn't mean ****.

Meanwhile, there's actual crime occurring. Oh, and the kicker? My employee's husband's sole purpose during these stings is to transport the prostitutes from the casino to the jail. That's all he does. When she told me this my blood began to boil and I got baited into an argument about what policing should be all about.

Her argument (and I'm guessing this came straight from her husband's mouth) was that prostitution was illegal, and, if you could make three busts in one night -vs- working a burglary case for a month for one bust, you'd be silly to waste all that time and money on one burglary arrest. I was stunned at this logic, yet, held my tongue.

I consider this BCND material because of the massive waste of resources and zero effect on 'actual crime.' Prostitution stings are easy and probably fun. Solving actual crime is not. The fact that this guy gets his salary, benefits and overtime from waiting around to give somebody a ride every couple of hours is maddening. I've got seniors that have to decide between medicine and food and these ******* are hanging-out at casinos, gambling and taking road trips all night. ******* bullshit.

EDIT: Got rid of my city's name.

Replace drugs with prostitutes and you've just discovered a huge issue with the war on drugs too.
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Lead Hill police chief arrested on theft charge

Authorities in north Arkansas say the Lead Hill police chief was arrested on suspicion of selling guns that he seized from a resident.

Police Chief Kenny Barnes was arrested Monday at Lead Hill City Hall. Boone County Sheriff Mike Moore says Barnes is accused of seizing several guns from a home in Diamond City when he was off duty. Barnes is accused of later selling those guns for personal gain.

He was arrested on suspicion of felony theft, abuse of public trust, abuse of office and release or disclosure to unauthorized person for allegedly misusing information from the Arkansas Crime Information Computer.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
This is what the Sheriff's Dept. in my town does on the weekends:




Lmao. In Detroit, you can see the county courthouse, old jail, bran new jail (still being built), and sheriffs department all while standing and looking at a casino too. They're on the same street, in fact. Plus there are 3 casino's in Detroit. That story sounds a lot like Detroit ^ - I mean, if they had the budget for that...
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Judge who ruled sex worker’s rape was ‘theft of services’ faces activist pushback | The Raw Story

Activists in Pennsylvania are campaigning against the retention of a Philadelphia Municipal Court judge who ruled that the assault of a sex worker by multiple men amounted to “theft of services” rather than rape. According to RH Reality Check, Judge Teresa Carr Deni is up for election next week, but the ruling in question took place six years ago.

In 2007, Judge Deni heard the case of a 20-year-old sex worker who consented to meet a man named Dominique Gindraw via Craigslist and have intercourse with him for $150. Gindraw asked if his friend could participate for an additional $100. The woman consented.

However, when the second man arrived, he produced a gun and the woman was forced to have sex with the two men and two others. She received no money.
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Driver says Sonoma deputy pulled gun on him - SFGate

The Sonoma County sheriff's deputy who shot and killed a 13-year-old boy after mistaking his toy AK-47 for a real rifle pulled a gun on a motorist twice during a traffic stop on Highway 101 about two months earlier, the driver said Thursday.

Jeff Westbrook of Santa Rosa said he was mistreated by Deputy Erick Gelhaus after being pulled over Aug. 21 in Cotati for failing to signal a lane change in his BMW. The interaction troubled Westbrook so much that he recalled asking Gelhaus at one point, "Sir, is there something wrong with you?"

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Westbrook said he and a colleague were traveling south on Highway 101 near Highway 116 when Gelhaus pulled them over and then approached the BMW on the passenger side.

There wasn't much room on the side of the highway, Westbrook said, so he rolled down his window and offered to move the car. That's when Gelhaus pulled a gun on him and yelled at him to turn the car off, Westbrook said. He said he responded that the car was already off.

According to Westbrook, Gelhaus returned to his cruiser to write a ticket. Several minutes later, the driver said, Gelhaus asked him to walk back to his cruiser and then pulled a gun on him a second time, asking him if he had any weapons before frisking him.

Westbrook said he finally asked the deputy why he had pulled him over, with Gelhaus referring to an illegal lane change. Westbrook said that's when he asked the deputy if he was OK. Gelhaus didn't answer, he said.
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ROFL, real life GTAV:

LiveLeak.com - 1 vs. 100: Cops Edition

like 1000 cops show up to arrest one stubborn dude. Must of had 5 stars.
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I've always been an advocate for advancement in science, space exploration and generally pushing all scientific frontiers, but sometimes thinking about things like the things in this thread make me realize how primitive we still are. We are one step away from reverting back to walking hunched over with a club in hand, throwing rocks and grunting, running rape parties against rival groups. Maybe we aren't ready to advance at the rate that we are. Most people like to think that they are so evolved and moral, but are they really? All of this corruption and personal gain going on around the world. I guess it's only human nature after all, but still. We are this unstable and uncivilized (though we pretend to be civilized) and we have the technology to destroy all life on earth. Reminds me of a Star Trek TNG episode where Riker gets injured on a planet that they are covertly observing for possible entry into the Federation. They weren't ready for the advances they had made so quickly, and a lot of people were scared.

No idea where all of that came from. Not really related to this thread, but sort of relevant I guess. Off to bed, my mind is foggy.

^ Exactly what I mean in that video. Police aren't working for us. They have that primal mob mentality. They are not there for the good of us, but for the good of one another. It's them vs. "us".

Something is terribly fucked up with this world.
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Police release video of officer involved shooting at convenience store - Las Vegas MyNews3 - KSNV



Officer Evans observed the individual, later identified as Antoine Hodges, 30, of Las Vegas, enter a convenience store located in the 300 block of North Nellis Boulevard.

As the officer approached the front of the store Hodges began to exit the business.

Officer Evans ordered Hodges to continue to exit the store and to show him his hands.

Instead of following the officer’s instructions Hodges retreated backwards into the store and began moving away from the officer. Officer Evans quickly followed the suspect while continuing to order him to stop and show him his hands.

As he was backing away Hodges was holding his left hand up toward the officer, clutching his car keys and cell phone, while moving his right hand to a position behind his back near his rear pants pocket, concealing it from the officer’s view.

As Hodges continued his retreat from the officer he backed into an ice cream freezer, causing him to abruptly turn towards Officer Evans who fired one shot from his handgun.

Hodges was struck in the abdomen, and transported to the UMC Trauma center where he was treated and released for a superficial gunshot wound.

The investigation into this incident revealed Hodges did not have a weapon in his right rear pants pocket. Additionally, it has now been determined Hodges is not the suspect in the double homicide.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
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Good post though, the point of this thread (after I took over), is to remind people that America is in danger of becoming like places like Australia.

America is unusual because it was the first country that established a Constitution that told the gov't what it could or could not do; and gave the citizens inalienable rights. We are free to do whatever we want unless there's a law the prevents it, our gov't/police can not do anything unless there's a law that says they can.

Our founding principles are what made us the great powerful nation we are, our liberal principles are what are making us more like Australia and other shitty countries everyday.
If the principles were liberal they would let everyone do what they want, not add lots of rules to control them.

You must mean statist, which people seem to identify with and then call themselves liberal.
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If the principles were liberal they would let everyone do what they want, not add lots of rules to control them.

You must mean statist, which people seem to identify with and then call themselves liberal.
if the shoe fits...

liberals stole the term from libertarians so they'd trick you into sounding like what you'd expect; they are not supporters of liberty.
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