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Old 01-10-2012, 12:05 PM   #1
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I've already written my Congressworm thanking her for being against SOPA.

In this thread let's post links to campaigns and petitions for lawmakers to fight it.

For those unaware, this is a BIG DEAL. It's the "Stop Internet Piracy Act". In a nutshell, if the music and movie industry gets their way, if you run a website, YOU are on the hook to police your users that they don't post "copyrighted content", and you will be legally liable if they do. This has huge ramifications for running websites.

I'll start with this link about how the big internet boys plan to fight it with "the nuclear option":
http://www.extremetech.com/computing...o-protest-sopa

(Thanks to blaen99 for bringing up the topic in another thread)

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Old 01-10-2012, 12:19 PM   #2
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Here's a SOPA faq:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57...ffect-you-faq/

Things you can do:
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/1...sopa-activists

Contact your Senaturd:
https://www.senate.gov/general/conta...nators_cfm.cfm
The Senate version of SOPA is "PIPA". It looks like the old trick of offering something extreme so people will raise an uproar then substitute something that seems to be a "compromise" so that people will accept it, but it's what they wanted in the first place.

Contact your Congressworm:
https://wfc2.wiredforchange.com/o/90...ction_KEY=8336

Check first if they are against it because a few are, by googling their name and "SOPA". If they are against it then call or email and thank them for being against this POS.
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Old 01-14-2012, 05:03 AM   #3
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even craigslist is getting a bit active on this

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Good.

Everyone should be screaming bloody murder about SOPA. Every. One.

Anyone who supported it should never be re-elected. Ever. Same for PIPA or whatever the Senate's version is.

P.S. If you have never written your congresscritters before, do it for SOPA and PIPA (Or whatever it is, protect IP act? Something like that). I've actually gone so far as to give them angry phone calls, which is kind of a really big step for me - the congresscritters will bow in a heartbeat to public pressure, but only if public pressure is applied by their constituents.
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...est=latestnews

This is good right? Although the whole SOPA thing looks like BS.
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they are organizing an internet strike
a bunch of sites will be shutting down at eight am on wednesday

http://sopastrike.com/
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https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petition...ative-internet

That's the president's response to SOPA/PIPA/etc.
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What happened to the system of government where the people decide what they want? Law makers aren't supposed to vote for what they like, but what WE like. I think we've forgotten that.

WE do not like SOPA.
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What happened to the system of government where the people decide what they want? Law makers aren't supposed to vote for what they like, but what WE like. I think we've forgotten that.

WE do not like SOPA.
Yes, but the people who vote for the lawmakers do like SOPA.

If the 60% who did not vote turned out in the next election to write-in Ron Paul, he'd win by a landslide. Seriously, he'd win by the biggest margin ever seen in this country.
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Yes, but the people who vote for the lawmakers do like SOPA.
Yes and herein lies the problem with "democracy".

The general populace has a very poor understanding of liberty, property and individual rights. They vote unknowingly against their interests. The reason for this is the double whammy of gov't-controlled schooling and elite-controlled mass media from which they get their information. The elite and the gov't are of course, hand in hand.

The internet is changing all this. SOPA is a baby step towards controlling the internet....
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Yes and herein lies the problem with "democracy".

The general populace has a very poor understanding of liberty, property and individual rights. They vote unknowingly against their interests. The reason for this is the double whammy of gov't-controlled schooling and elite-controlled mass media from which they get their information. The elite and the gov't are of course, hand in hand.

The internet is changing all this. SOPA is a baby step towards controlling the internet....
I disagree. The biggest problem with "Democracy" is that we are ruled right now by a minority with a very poor understanding of liberty, property, and individual rights who vote unknowingly against their interests because the majority does not vote. Because the majority does not vote, we have more and more extremists that only get any acknowledgement because increasingly, they are the only segment that votes. When a huge amount of a voter bloc can be identified by a single issue ("Outlaw abortion!"), and it has a great deal of power in government - we got a giant damn issue with the non-voting population, because that segment should be a tiny, miniscule minority if we had a reasonable amount of voters.

I agree with your thoughts about SOPA, though, and general overall post.
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Well, minus a couple typos that make me look like another dumbass voter, I've done my part. You know it might be more productive for everyone posting in this thread the run a TOR node.
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I do run a TOR node, coincidentally, and that's a great suggestion Messiahx.

Unfortunately, however, the gov't is starting to look very unkindly at TOR of late. I am starting to worry about what they'll do in the future to it.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57...target-on-tor/

SOPA may even go after TOR depending on interpretation.

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SOPA's been shelved for now! Now we must get PIPA killed!

http://www.examiner.com/computers-in...use-kills-sopa
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SOPA's been shelved for now! Now we must get PIPA killed!

http://www.examiner.com/computers-in...use-kills-sopa
I just came across that article and was going to post it here.

Like they say, not time to celebrate yet. At least the huge online uproar is doing some good though.
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Sometimes voters can raise enough of a stink that it scares the legislators.

Now we have to fight PIPA because the statists and lobbyists never stop.
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Don't they still plan to do that internet black out thing?
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English Wikipedia anti-SOPA blackout

To: English Wikipedia Readers and Community
From: Sue Gardner, Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director
Date: January 16, 2012


Today, the Wikipedia community announced its decision to black out the English-language Wikipedia for 24 hours, worldwide, beginning at 05:00 UTC on Wednesday, January 18 (you can read the statement from the Wikimedia Foundation here). The blackout is a protest against proposed legislation in the United States — the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) in the U.S. House of Representatives, and the PROTECT IP Act (PIPA) in the U.S. Senate — that, if passed, would seriously damage the free and open Internet, including Wikipedia.

This will be the first time the English Wikipedia has ever staged a public protest of this nature, and it’s a decision that wasn’t lightly made. Here’s how it’s been described by the three Wikipedia administrators who formally facilitated the community’s discussion. From the public statement, signed by User:NuclearWarfare, User:Risker and User:Billinghurst:
It is the opinion of the English Wikipedia community that both of these bills, if passed, would be devastating to the free and open web.
Over the course of the past 72 hours, over 1800 Wikipedians have joined together to discuss proposed actions that the community might wish to take against SOPA and PIPA. This is by far the largest level of participation in a community discussion ever seen on Wikipedia, which illustrates the level of concern that Wikipedians feel about this proposed legislation. The overwhelming majority of participants support community action to encourage greater public action in response to these two bills. Of the proposals considered by Wikipedians, those that would result in a “blackout” of the English Wikipedia, in concert with similar blackouts on other websites opposed to SOPA and PIPA, received the strongest support.
On careful review of this discussion, the closing administrators note the broad-based support for action from Wikipedians around the world, not just from within the United States. The primary objection to a global blackout came from those who preferred that the blackout be limited to readers from the United States, with the rest of the world seeing a simple banner notice instead. We also noted that roughly 55% of those supporting a blackout preferred that it be a global one, with many pointing to concerns about similar legislation in other nations.

In making this decision, Wikipedians will be criticized for seeming to abandon neutrality to take a political position. That’s a real, legitimate issue. We want people to trust Wikipedia, not worry that it is trying to propagandize them.

But although Wikipedia’s articles are neutral, its existence is not. As Wikimedia Foundation board member Kat Walsh wrote on one of our mailing lists recently,
We depend on a legal infrastructure that makes it possible for us to operate. And we depend on a legal infrastructure that also allows other sites to host user-contributed material, both information and expression. For the most part, Wikimedia projects are organizing and summarizing and collecting the world’s knowledge. We’re putting it in context, and showing people how to make to sense of it.
But that knowledge has to be published somewhere for anyone to find and use it. Where it can be censored without due process, it hurts the speaker, the public, and Wikimedia. Where you can only speak if you have sufficient resources to fight legal challenges, or if your views are pre-approved by someone who does, the same narrow set of ideas already popular will continue to be all anyone has meaningful access to.

The decision to shut down the English Wikipedia wasn’t made by me; it was made by editors, through a consensus decision-making process. But I support it.

Like Kat and the rest of the Wikimedia Foundation Board, I have increasingly begun to think of Wikipedia’s public voice, and the goodwill people have for Wikipedia, as a resource that wants to be used for the benefit of the public. Readers trust Wikipedia because they know that despite its faults, Wikipedia’s heart is in the right place. It’s not aiming to monetize their eyeballs or make them believe some particular thing, or sell them a product. Wikipedia has no hidden agenda: it just wants to be helpful.

That’s less true of other sites. Most are commercially motivated: their purpose is to make money. That doesn’t mean they don’t have a desire to make the world a better place — many do! — but it does mean that their positions and actions need to be understood in the context of conflicting interests.

My hope is that when Wikipedia shuts down on January 18, people will understand that we’re doing it for our readers. We support everyone’s right to freedom of thought and freedom of expression. We think everyone should have access to educational material on a wide range of subjects, even if they can’t pay for it. We believe in a free and open Internet where information can be shared without impediment. We believe that new proposed laws like SOPA and PIPA, and other similar laws under discussion inside and outside the United States — don’t advance the interests of the general public. You can read a very good list of reasons to oppose SOPA and PIPA here, from the Electronic Frontier Foundation.

Why is this a global action, rather than US-only? And why now, if some American legislators appear to be in tactical retreat on SOPA?

The reality is that we don’t think SOPA is going away, and PIPA is still quite active. Moreover, SOPA and PIPA are just indicators of a much broader problem. All around the world, we're seeing the development of legislation intended to fight online piracy, and regulate the Internet in other ways, that hurt online freedoms. Our concern extends beyond SOPA and PIPA: they are just part of the problem. We want the Internet to remain free and open, everywhere, for everyone.

Make your voice heard!



On January 18, we hope you’ll agree with us, and will do what you can to make your own voice heard.

Sue Gardner,
Executive Director, Wikimedia Foundation
Wikipedia is at least, t minus >10 hours.
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