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Old 04-26-2011, 01:12 PM   #1
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The Michigan State Police have a high-tech mobile forensics device that can be used to extract information from cell phones belonging to motorists stopped for minor traffic violations. The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of Michigan last Wednesday demanded that state officials stop stonewalling freedom of information requests for information on the program.
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Unacceptable doesn't even begin to describe this one.
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finally the ACLU is invovled in a case they should be.


if border patrol agents cant refit a battery in the cell phone of a suspected drug/human trafficker, then the state police has no right in illegally searching your phone.
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finally the ACLU is invovled in a case they should be.
It's hard to believe that I agree with this.
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finally the ACLU is invovled in a case they should be.
This.

Edit, what happens if you refuse?
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if border patrol agents cant refit a battery in the cell phone of a suspected drug/human trafficker, then the state police has no right in illegally searching your phone.
While this is obviously a breach of privacy breaking the 4th amendment, what I find particularly annoying about this is that this device will not be catching drug runners, child traffickers and menaces to society, they will be catching some high school kid or housewife causing no harm to anyone.
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They probably practice this in china. Communism... yes!
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Someone clue me in here: What are they electronically scanning from your phone?
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who cares what they are scanning. it is not relevant to minor traffic stops.

At least facist states give you the percieved notion that you own your own property.
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I would generally be very forth coming and cooperative in the event of a traffic stop. If they want to search my car, then fine, as long as it isn't going to take more than 15 min. I'm not letting someone scan my phone and collect all of the data that's on it. Especially when it is information that would clearly need a search warrant in any other circumstance.
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Someone clue me in here: What are they electronically scanning from your phone?
It appears that they can pull any data off the phone, so if you carry around financial info, business info, porno pictures of your mistress, whatever it contains.
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you let cops search your car? why?
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who cares what they are scanning. it is not relevant to minor traffic stops.

At least facist states give you the percieved notion that you own your own property.
My question is what is THEIR reasoning behind this ****?
I know its wrong and all, I just want to hear how they justify such bullshit.
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It appears that they can pull any data off the phone, so if you carry around financial info, business info, porno pictures of your mistress, whatever it contains.
And do what, use it against you? So cops are nigerian princes now? They steal your identity?
WTF??? lol
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you let cops search your car? why?
I've never been in the situation to have my cr searched, but i don't see a problem with it. i've got nothing to hide and I know what information of mine they can see.
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they've got nothing to see. say no.
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They will not be searching my phone anytime soon.
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around here (and most other places) if they demand to search your car and you refuse, they will impound your car. No ifs ands or buts about it
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they've got nothing to see. say no.
In most cases they'll search it anyway.
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In most cases they'll search it anyway.

thats when you call in a state trooper
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around here (and most other places) if they demand to search your car and you refuse, they will impound your car. No ifs ands or buts about it

show me California Code that says this.


Refusing consent is NOT in and of it self probable cause.

however

If he is able to develop probable cause independant of your refusal, he will be able to obtain a search warrant. (drug sniffing dog, looking into windows, other BS)

See Terry vs. Ohio, then this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_v._Long

It does you best to move out of liberal states that do not care about individual's unalienable freedoms/rights.

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