Mosque/ "Community Center" near WTC
08-18-2010, 12:10 PM
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People do have a right assemble, protest, speech etc.
Its my understanding that the proposed building is within the zoning laws for that area. In fact, having spent a bunch of time in that area in my youth it seems quite normal. Its a business area, all kinds of business's function there, religious and otherwise....including **** shops. lol...
At the end of the day, after all the bitching, if the muslims wish to continue anyway, they should be allowed to do so without interference from government.
This same scenario has played out in locations around the USA in the past, against other religions as well.
Now there are some Baptist tards in CA that dont want a mosque built near their church. Idiots.
Its my understanding that the proposed building is within the zoning laws for that area. In fact, having spent a bunch of time in that area in my youth it seems quite normal. Its a business area, all kinds of business's function there, religious and otherwise....including **** shops. lol...
At the end of the day, after all the bitching, if the muslims wish to continue anyway, they should be allowed to do so without interference from government.
This same scenario has played out in locations around the USA in the past, against other religions as well.
Now there are some Baptist tards in CA that dont want a mosque built near their church. Idiots.
so what's the point? the Gov't isn't getting involved. a large group of people have issue with the location chosen, the end.
Was is right of Adam Sandler to save the school that was legally being bulldosed in order to build a hotel? He stopped the hotel from being built, which had all legal authority to do so, and everyone lived happily ever after.
In my parents area a **** shop took set up shop in a very prominent location in town. Citizens of that town were unhappy with a huge **** shop in the middle of town and pressured them out, IIRC, they were paid a handsome reward to close up shop and move to a different location hidden away from public view. This happens every day...so again, what's the problem? The **** shop has absolutely every right to operate in that location, and people have every right to be upset with it being there. So what did they do? made a compromise; the **** shop found it beneficial to take a payment of cash and simply move shop, and a the citizens of said town were happy to buy **** in seclusion again.
Muslims also have the "right" to stone women under Sharia Law...
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08-18-2010, 12:20 PM
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In London’s newspaper Al-Sharq Al-Awsat, Abdul Rahman Al-Rashid, director of Al-Arabiya TV and the previous editor of the paper, explains why the mosque should not be build at Ground Zero:
I cannot imagine that Muslims want a mosque on this particular site, because it will be turned into an arena for promoters of hatred, and a symbol of those who committed the crime. At the same time, there are no practicing Muslims in the district who need a place of worship, because it is indeed a commercial district. …
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... The last thing Muslims want today is to build just a religious center out of defiance to the others, or a symbolic mosque that people visit as a museum next to a cemetery. …
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... The battle against the September 11 terrorists is a Muslim battle … and this battle still is ablaze in more than 20 Muslim countries. Some Muslims will consider that building a mosque on this site immortalizes and commemorates what was done by the terrorists who committed their crime in the name of Islam. I do not think that the majority of Muslims want to build a symbol or a worship place that tomorrow might become a place about which the terrorists and their Muslim followers boast, and which will become a shrine for Islam haters whose aim is to turn the public opinion against Islam.
I cannot imagine that Muslims want a mosque on this particular site, because it will be turned into an arena for promoters of hatred, and a symbol of those who committed the crime. At the same time, there are no practicing Muslims in the district who need a place of worship, because it is indeed a commercial district. …
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... The last thing Muslims want today is to build just a religious center out of defiance to the others, or a symbolic mosque that people visit as a museum next to a cemetery. …
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... The battle against the September 11 terrorists is a Muslim battle … and this battle still is ablaze in more than 20 Muslim countries. Some Muslims will consider that building a mosque on this site immortalizes and commemorates what was done by the terrorists who committed their crime in the name of Islam. I do not think that the majority of Muslims want to build a symbol or a worship place that tomorrow might become a place about which the terrorists and their Muslim followers boast, and which will become a shrine for Islam haters whose aim is to turn the public opinion against Islam.
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08-18-2010, 12:31 PM
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You're acting like they're going to build a giant ****-shaped building and wave "I heart terrorism" flags from it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZpT2...layer_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZpT2...layer_embedded
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08-18-2010, 03:20 PM
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This country is so ******* backwards. We come here, tell the Natives to DIAF and kill a bunch of them because we want the land to get away from religious persecution only to later dictate where and who can build what place of warship where. Maybe I should start protesting every damn new church site because there are already more of them around here than Waffle Houses, Starbucks and McDonalds...combined. Ever think I see that has them trying to shove their **** down my throat? I find it offensive when I see tons of land clear cut and leveled just to build a giant steel shed that they call a church. Hell, there are a lot that are so big they create traffic problems and require STATE resources to control traffic...what kind of logic is that?
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08-18-2010, 03:56 PM
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There is nothing illegal with building a mosque at Ground Zero. However it is in bad taste and likely has malicious intent. It would be no different than the Japanese government building a monument to their naval victory in Pearl Harbor right next to the Arizona.
Bad taste is not a crime. This should be a local zoning issue. It's unfathomable to me that our President and Speaker of the House are supporting the issue. It's maddening to me that our tax dollars are sending this Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf around the world to fund raise to build a Mosque. A man who has written a book titled A Call For The Spread of Islam From the World Trade Center Rubble. There is no doubt that such a Mosque if it is constructed will be seen as a monument to radical Islam's attack on the United States.
Bad taste is not a crime. This should be a local zoning issue. It's unfathomable to me that our President and Speaker of the House are supporting the issue. It's maddening to me that our tax dollars are sending this Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf around the world to fund raise to build a Mosque. A man who has written a book titled A Call For The Spread of Islam From the World Trade Center Rubble. There is no doubt that such a Mosque if it is constructed will be seen as a monument to radical Islam's attack on the United States.
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08-18-2010, 04:17 PM
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The world must be laughing at our pansy asses...
TERRORIST TRAINING 101:
If you get caught, tell them you were abused.
MEXICAN TRAINING 101:
Migrate to USA, break all laws, lol when they can't ask for your papers.
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08-18-2010, 04:23 PM
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The Daily Show made some commentary about this last week. The media has played it out to be a Mosque is being built "on" Ground Zero when it's actually 2 blocks away. According to the show, there's an already existing Mosque 2-3 blocks away already and was actually there before the WTC buildings.
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08-20-2010, 02:42 PM
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The building of the mosque and community center, as well as the initiative itself, was supported by some Muslim American leaders and organizations, including CAIR, and criticized by some Muslims such as Sufi mystic Suleiman Schwartz, who said that a building built by Rauf barely two blocks from ground zero, is inconsistent with Sufi philosophy of simplicity of faith and sensitivity towards others.[31] Supporters for Cordoba House point out that two Mosques in Lower Manhattan have firm roots, and one of them was founded in 1970, pre-dating the World Trade Center.[32]
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