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Old 12-23-2011, 01:02 AM   #1
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Source: http://news.yahoo.com/ad-newsletter-...011503908.html

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A direct-mail solicitation for Ron Paul's political and investment newsletters two decades ago warned of a "coming race war in our big cities" and of a "federal-homosexual cover-up" to play down the impact of AIDS.

The eight-page letter, which appears to carry Paul's signature at the end, also warns that the U.S. government's redesign of currency to include different colors - a move aimed at thwarting counterfeiters - actually was part of a plot to allow the government to track Americans using the "new money."

The letter urges readers to subscribe to Paul's newsletters so that he could "tell you how you can save yourself and your family" from an overbearing government.

The letter's details emerge at a time when Paul, now a contender for the Republican nomination for president, is under fire over reports that his newsletters contained racist, anti-homosexual and anti-Israel rants.

Reports of the newsletters' contents have Paul's campaign scrambling to deny that he wrote the inflammatory articles.

Among other things, the articles called the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. a "world-class philanderer," criticized the U.S. holiday bearing King's name as "Hate Whitey Day," and said that AIDS sufferers "enjoy the attention and pity that comes with being sick."

As Paul made a campaign stop in Manchester, Iowa, on Thursday, his Iowa chairman, Drew Ivers, repeated Paul's assertions that he did not write the articles that resurfaced this week in a report in the Weekly Standard magazine.

Paul has said that he is not sure who wrote the articles that were published under his name. He has said the articles do not reflect his views, and noted that his public stances - supporting gays in the military for example - have run counter to the incendiary statements in the newsletters.

In an interview with CNN's Gloria Borger on Wednesday, Paul said of the newsletter's articles: "I didn't write them. I didn't read them at the time and I disavow them."

When Borger continued to pursue the subject, Paul removed his microphone and walked out of the interview.

"It is ridiculous to imply that Ron Paul is a bigot, racist, or unethical," Ivers said.

However, Ivers said, Paul does not deny or retract material that Paul has written under his own signature, such as the letter promoting Paul's newsletters.

When asked whether that meant Paul believed there was a government conspiracy to cover up the impact of AIDS, Ivers said, "I don't think he embraces that."

Paul's newsletters "showed good factual information and investment information," Ivers said. "It was a public service, helping people understand and equip them to avoid an unsound monetary policy."

"EXTRAORDINARY SOURCES"

The letter promoting Paul's newsletters was written about 1993. It was during a period in which Paul - who left Congress in 1985 after serving about eight years - returned to Washington after a decade's absence.

(For a PDF of the solicitation letter see http://link.reuters.com/vud75s)

The letter was provided to Reuters by James Kirchick, a contributing editor for The New Republic magazine. He says he found the letter in archives of political literature maintained by the University of Kansas and the Wisconsin Historical Society.

Early in the 2008 presidential campaign - in which Paul was a candidate - Kirchick published an article in The New Republic in which he described Paul as "not the plain-speaking antiwar activist his supporters believe they are backing - but rather a member in good standing of some of the oldest and ugliest traditions in American politics."

The letter promoting Paul's newsletters claims that Paul - through what he describes as a network of "extraordinary sources" in Congress, the White House, the Treasury and Justice departments, the Federal Reserve and the Internal Revenue Service - had acquired unique insider information that would his subscribers to "neutralize" the plans of "powerbrokers."

Paul's letter went on to describe various plots and schemes that he had "unmasked," including a "plot for world government, world money and world central banking." He also claimed to have exposed a plan by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to "suspend the Constitution" in a falsely declared national emergency.

Despite being "told not to talk," Paul wrote that his newsletters also "laid bare" the "Israeli lobby, which plays Congress like a cheap harmonica," and a "federal-homosexual cover-up on AIDS."

Paul claimed that his "training as a physician" helped him "see through" this alleged cover-up.

Paul also suggested that a planned U.S. currency with new notes designed to curb counterfeiting and money laundering would result in the distribution of "totalitarian bills" that "were tinted pink and blue and brown, and blighted with holograms, diffraction gratings, metal and plastic threads and chemical alarms."

Paul said the money was designed to allow authorities to "keep track of American cash and American citizens."

He urged the letter's readers to send in $99, which would buy subscriptions to his monthly political and investment newsletters, a copy of his book "Surviving the New Money," an investment manual and access to the "unlisted phone number of my Financial Hotline for fast breaking news."

(Additional reporting by Samuel P. Jacobs in Manchester, Iowa; Editing by David Lindsey and Eric Walsh)
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Old 12-23-2011, 01:19 AM   #2
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I've read the supposed newsletter, I seriously doubt Paul wrote it. In my eyes, it screams of the Killian documents.

Coincidentally, it turns up when Paul is consistently polling in the top 3 against other Republican candidates. I can't help but draw parallels to the Killian documents.
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Old news, long since answered satisfactorily by Ron Paul, resurfacing at the moment simply because he's challenging the status quo. The establishment politicians will do whatever is necessary to destroy him. Research for yourself and decide if Ron Paul is a racist.
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I still prefer him over socialist Romney.
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Wait, why should I read an unethical, unresearched, piece of garbage yellow journalism trash?


This gloria chick should be fired:




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Coincidentally, it turns up when Paul is consistently polling in the top 3 against other Republican candidates.
this. Apparently this is all nancy p. can dig up on him...
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Heres a screen shot of what olderguys link;



I don't necessarily believe it but whatev.

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Wait, why should I read an unethical, unresearched, piece of garbage yellow journalism trash?
My question is did he make money from it.
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My question is did he make money from it.
Assuming it is accurate that Ron Paul made money from the distribution of this newsletter, with his name in the title and ghost-written with his voice, that is a completely legitimate question.

I also feel like it is unsatisfactory to say that he does not know who the author was (again, assuming the above is accurate).

mgeoffriau - Can you speak to that based on your previous research? I do remember this coming up in '08 but honestly can't recall the resolution...

http://www.businessinsider.com/heres...etters-2011-12
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Only guesses. Lew Rockwell's name comes up a lot. I'd be surprised if it was him -- not so much because I know his character personally, but it'd seem terribly short-sighted to print things like that in Ron Paul's name. My honest guess is that some underpaid ghostwriter was mimicking what he perceived to be a view that would resonate with Paul's followers.

In other words, I think those were written by Random Dude, and that Random Dude was long ago expunged from the Paul camp for being an idiot.
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this. Apparently this is all nancy p. can dig up on him...
You know, when I first read this, I epic facepalmed. Then I thought about it.

And damnit Brainy, one of your positions Actually Makes Sense. The Democrats are afraid of Paul winning the nom because Obama will lose to Paul. Anyone else in the field...not so much.

Combine that with the Koch bros and their ilk saying they'll do anything to make sure Paul doesn't win it, Ron Paul's nom chances are looking not so great.
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I don't necessarily believe it but whatev.
The Meatloaf song that states "Two out of three ain't bad" is nowhere near the eight out of ten(so far) illustrated in this paragraph
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Combine that with the Koch bros and their ilk saying they'll do anything to make sure Paul doesn't win it, Ron Paul's nom chances are looking not so great.
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My question is did he make money from it.
From what I have read I believe people have looked up tax documents and he only made something like $280 for "running" the news letters. So he did not make any sizable amount of money from it. I am way to lazy to go find sources on it.
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ive made more than that posting drivel on this site...i hope i dont run for pres.
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I'm still looking for a developed country without a currency policy and libertarian agenda for both social and diplomatic policy....cuz that's what Ron Paul promises. If there was ever one in history, it seems to have failed and if it's such a great idea, why didn't E. Europe go that way with the fall of the USSR?

As soon as I read an answer to those issues I'll consider going so far to the right that I hold hands with the left....untill then I sit here in the center with the rest of the educated world.
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This country was very libertarian in its early days, even before the revolution. Before about the 1830s or so it had a strong common law tradition. There was very little gov't in most people's lives.

The old Common Law system interests me because it has some of the features of an AnarchoCapitalist system.

Also, around 950-1300 AD the Icelandic Commonwealth, which lasted longer than this country has been around, had competitive chieftains and a gov't with no executive branch.
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On the media smear campaign:
http://runronpaul.com/mainstream-med...inst-ron-paul/

Ron Paul explains the racist origins of the Drug War:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1170878.html
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I'm still looking for a developed country without a currency policy and libertarian agenda for both social and diplomatic policy....cuz that's what Ron Paul promises. If there was ever one in history, it seems to have failed and if it's such a great idea, why didn't E. Europe go that way with the fall of the USSR?

As soon as I read an answer to those issues I'll consider going so far to the right that I hold hands with the left....untill then I sit here in the center with the rest of the educated world.
The thing you don't realize is no one will ever let the Ron Paul get everything he wants. It will be somewhere in the middle probably, which is really what we need I think. If we go with anyone else, we will continue the path we are on now, which is basically the 2012 prophecy coming true.
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