Welfare Drug Testing - Page 2 - Miata Turbo Forum - Boost cars, acquire cats.

Welcome to Miataturbo.net   Members
 


Current Events, News, Politics Keep the politics here.

Reply
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-27-2014, 10:48 AM   #21
Elite Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Erat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Detroit
Posts: 4,201
Total Cats: 260
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thenuge26 View Post
I think even drug testing for minimum wage jobs is stupid. If they work sober and it doesn't impact their job, who cares? What right does an employer (even the state or federal governments) have to say what I can or cannot do while I am not on the job?
You're okay with teachers or school bus drivers doing drugs in their "off the clock" time?

Hmm...
Erat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2014, 10:58 AM   #22
Boost Czar
iTrader: (61)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 72,900
Total Cats: 1,792
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thenuge26 View Post
What right does an employer (even the state or federal governments) have to say what I can or cannot do while I am not on the job?
every right in the world. An employer should have the right to hire and fire employees for ANY reason whatsoever.
Braineack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2014, 11:04 AM   #23
mkturbo.com
iTrader: (24)
 
shuiend's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 13,780
Total Cats: 1,106
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Erat View Post
You're okay with teachers or school bus drivers doing drugs in their "off the clock" time?

Hmm...
Yes I am. I don't get mad at them if they drink off the clock.
shuiend is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2014, 11:11 AM   #24
mkturbo.com
iTrader: (24)
 
shuiend's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 13,780
Total Cats: 1,106
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stein View Post
If I have to take a drug test to work to pay for the welfare then they have to take a drug test to get the money that I had to take a drug test to provide.
So what if my job does not drug test and I also pay into welfare. Just because your job requires you to do something does not mean all jobs do. So you cannot use that analogy to make your point. It is the same as me saying that since I have to have specific certifications to hold my job, you should have to have them also to get welfare. That makes absolutely no sense.
shuiend is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2014, 11:27 AM   #25
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 3,325
Total Cats: 235
Default

I like the point someone made when Florida first brought this up.

If they want to drug test people getting welfare, first they have to drug test the representatives trying to pass that law. Funny enough none of them went for it...
thenuge26 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2014, 11:37 AM   #26
mkturbo.com
iTrader: (24)
 
shuiend's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 13,780
Total Cats: 1,106
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thenuge26 View Post
I like the point someone made when Florida first brought this up.

If they want to drug test people getting welfare, first they have to drug test the representatives trying to pass that law. Funny enough none of them went for it...
Well Cocaine is out of your system in 72 hours. So I guess we need to check the representatives Saturday and Sunday morning.
shuiend is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2014, 01:18 PM   #27
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Colorado
Posts: 1,669
Total Cats: 36
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackBandit View Post
Well isn't a warranty on a vehicle the same concept? Follow the rules on owning your car under warranty and still receive the benefits of the company taken care of the car. Void the warranty with modding etc. And you lose the warranty. Welfare is a program to help you out. Take advantage of it you should be on a probationary term. Fail more then 3 times I believe you should lose your privilege.

Also wasn't there an idea out there for wic checks to be used at restaurants? I am highly against this.
You know, I saw that same line of reasoning used to justify the ACA and its bunk. "We require car insurance, so what's so bad about requiring health insurance?"

No, vehicle warranties are not the same as welfare. Moving on.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Tekel View Post
Foodstamps need to be like WIC. You get a coupon for fruit, vegetables, bread, lunch meat etc. Not so your kid and his friends can get overpriced snacks at a gas station. EBT is awful or you blow your $600/month on frozen pizzas and soda. Because now with this healthcare, we are paying for you to kill yourself and make you better.
And if there is literally no decent access to a grocery? Ever seen a single mom trying to juggle groceries on the bus after work along with her kids?

Most people definitely need to stop eating out of gas stations (regardless of income) but one of the main issues for poor people is that getting to the damned grocery store can be expensive and time consuming, and a lot of people don't have the time and money to do it.
Sparetire is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2014, 01:31 PM   #28
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Colorado
Posts: 1,669
Total Cats: 36
Default

I think its total BS that we are in this position like pretty much all of you.

But something that costs more than it saves and pisses off enough people to vote in socialists is not a good idea.
Sparetire is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2014, 04:34 PM   #29
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
NA6C-Guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Birmingham Alabama
Posts: 8,038
Total Cats: 43
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tekel View Post
Foodstamps need to be like WIC. You get a coupon for fruit, vegetables, bread, lunch meat etc. Not so your kid and his friends can get overpriced snacks at a gas station. EBT is awful or you blow your $600/month on frozen pizzas and soda. Because now with this healthcare, we are paying for you to kill yourself and make you better.
This exactly. A year or so ago I was in line behind a woman at Walmart with a cart full of ****, paying with EBT. Snack cakes, frozen pizzas, a bunch of other frozen things you microwave or deep fry, sodas. I literally did not see a single fresh, non processed item in her cart. Seems like her total was over $100. I wanted to punch this ---- in the face.

Why is kunt with a c censored?
NA6C-Guy is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
3rd Time's a Charm...hopefully. zephyrusaurai Meet and Greet 2 09-28-2015 11:59 PM
Are my coils failing? viriiguy General Miata Chat 5 09-28-2015 08:39 PM
Compression test results Colipto General Miata Chat 3 09-11-2015 02:44 PM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:31 PM.