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Old 07-28-2013, 11:03 AM   #41
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However, I believe most rich people (and a vast majority of famous ones) are ********. Not necessarily bad, just ********. They got to be rich by being that way to the unwashed masses.
I disagree. Most rich people got rich by creating value - creating something others want and are happy to pay for. And ******** have a harder time getting cooperation from others.

The exception are psychopaths. They are expert manipulators and know how to turn on the charm.

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It appears that i have pissed off some people with my tank videos... please explain folks.
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I negged both posts, not because it pissed me off, but because it was openly flouting the purpose of the thread. There's plenty of other threads for that.
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I negged both posts, not because it pissed me off, but because it was openly flouting the purpose of the thread. There's plenty of other threads for that.
Ditto. Those were basically "troll posts." This sub-forum alone - to say nothing of nearly every news report - is full of all the bad things happening in the world, even though they likely represent a minority of actual events.
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The Whole World Is Getting Richer, and That's Good News - Businessweek

The Penn Tables provide GDP data for both 1960 and 2010, providing a 50 year window to view global economic progress. It has been considerable. Looking at absolute GDP, no country anywhere in the world for which we have data is smaller today than it was in 1960.

The countries that saw the size of their economies less than double since 1960 contain just 80 million people—a little more than 1 percent of the planet’s population. A further 1 billion people lived in countries where GDP climbed by somewhere between two- and fivefold.

That leaves 4.9 billion people—the considerable majority of the planet—living in countries where GDP has increased more than fivefold over 50 years. Those countries include India, with an economy nearly 10 times larger than it was in 1960, Indonesia (13 times), China (17 times), and Thailand (22 times larger than in 1960).
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Not only do our tax dollars help the "poor" here in America, they also go to promote capitalism in actual poor areas of the world. So we are able to feed the world, and jumpstart economies!

EXCLUSIVE: Dominican Republic scammers sell welfare food bought in NYC and shipped in barrels - NYPOST.com




Note: normally I'd post this in the random thread, but I love capitalism and I see it as a benefit to the Dominican people. I've been there and the island is poor and awful, and the food sucks to boot. It's good to see our food going to people who could actually benefit from it (they live in shanty town shacks), and are able to make money doing it.
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Still won't buy him a place in heaven.
I've heard that before:

Warren Buffett's Son: Charity Fuels a 'Perpetual Poverty Machine'
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Is the McDonald's McDouble the 'cheapest, most nutritious and bountiful food that has ever existed in human history?' | Mail Online

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At 390 calories, 23 grams of protein, 7-percent of the daily value of fiber, 20-percent of daily calcium and 19 grams of fat - with a typical price tag of about a buck - the McDouble, its advocates argue, is the most price-efficient food 'that has ever existed in human history.

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For the average poor person, it isn’t a great option to take a trip to the farmers market to puzzle over esoteric lefty-foodie codes. (Is sustainable better than organic? What if I have to choose between fair trade and cruelty-free?) Produce may seem cheap to environmentally aware blond moms who spend $300 on their highlights every month, but if your object is to fill your belly, it is hugely expensive per calorie. Junk food costs as little as $1.76 per 1,000 calories, whereas fresh veggies and the like cost more than 10 times as much, found a 2007 University of Washington survey for the Journal of the American Dietetic Association. A 2,000-calorie day of meals would, if you stuck strictly to the good-for-you stuff, cost $36.32, said the study’s lead author, Adam Drewnowski.
**** McDonald's haters. I don't care how much money McDonald's makes, they employ thousands and thousands of people (including lots of blacks who have horrible employment statistics), and provide the cheapest, HEALTHIEST, food to poor communities. It's not liberals who help the poor, it's capitalists.
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I think this is a win. No more mad cow... (Assuming the donor cow didn't have it).....
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Don't you want to complain about how the prices are exorbitant and not only is it not fair to the poor that only the rich can afford mushy, slimey, man-made beef because you don't understand how great capitalism is and that eventually everyone benefits from the system as the rich fund the innovation and eventually lead to competition, efficiency, and low-prices so it can be mass marketed and afforded to the most amount of people at the lowest possible price point but that you think the rich hate the poor and want them all to die of mad cow disease?


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Old 07-30-2013, 05:40 PM   #52
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You forgot to capitalize the D in Do.
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Banker Saves 20,000 From Nepal to Uganda With Her Profits - Bloomberg


New Zealand-born Audette Exel lives a double life. In New York, London, Bermuda and Sydney, she’s a company director and the owner and head of Isis (Asia Pacific) Pty, which advises companies on mergers and raises money for fund managers such as New York-based Aquiline Capital Partners LLC.

In the dirt-poor Himalayan foothills and civil war-ravaged East African bush, Exel is better known as the caftan-wearing founder and chief fundraiser of the Isis Foundation, which she says provides life-saving health care and education for 20,000 people a year in two of the world’s most impoverished nations, Nepal and Uganda.


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Both Exel’s corporate contacts and aid workers suspected she had ulterior motives when she founded the charity in 1998, she says. “The businesspeople thought we must be a tax structure,” she says. “The nonprofit community thought we were money launderers.”
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I would never knowingly eat that. I hope if it ever happens, there would be requirements that inform the public that this product exists in the food we eat.
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I would never knowingly eat that. I hope if it ever happens, there would be requirements that inform the public that this product exists in the food we eat.
I think labelling would be fair and I think you should have every right to avoid eating it if that is your preference.


On the other hand, if they could scale it up and make it cost effective, it could have huge benefits for low income individuals while also greatly reducing the amount of land and feedstock necessary to provide billions of people with beef protein. In addition, you theoretically cut down on the brutality of slaughterhouses (if that's important to a person) and the methane emissions of millions of cows (if that's important to a person).

Given the choice, I would always prefer a big, juicy, burger made with locally raised, grass-fed beef. But for billions of people in Africa and parts of Asia, cheap "petri-beef" could dramatically improve their lives.
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I think labelling would be fair and I think you should have every right to avoid eating it if that is your preference.


On the other hand, if they could scale it up and make it cost effective, it could have huge benefits for low income individuals while also greatly reducing the amount of land and feedstock necessary to provide billions of people with beef protein. In addition, you theoretically cut down on the brutality of slaughterhouses (if that's important to a person) and the methane emissions of millions of cows (if that's important to a person).

Given the choice, I would always prefer a big, juicy, burger made with locally raised, grass-fed beef. But for billions of people in Africa and parts of Asia, cheap "petri-beef" could dramatically improve their lives.
This.

Golden rice was the same concept. It provides a staple for the diet of billions at high yield/low cost.
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no, that's what vitamins are for.
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Brains post about McDoubles has been well known in the fitness industry since they released them at the low price.

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I think labelling would be fair and I think you should have every right to avoid eating it if that is your preference.


On the other hand, if they could scale it up and make it cost effective, it could have huge benefits for low income individuals while also greatly reducing the amount of land and feedstock necessary to provide billions of people with beef protein. In addition, you theoretically cut down on the brutality of slaughterhouses (if that's important to a person) and the methane emissions of millions of cows (if that's important to a person).

Given the choice, I would always prefer a big, juicy, burger made with locally raised, grass-fed beef. But for billions of people in Africa and parts of Asia, cheap "petri-beef" could dramatically improve their lives.
It is a very intriguing concept, but there are a few things about it that scares me. In saying that, I would rather keep the intentions of this thread intact.
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I agree with the improving lives, plus and this is my opinion but globally we really should work on finding a more sustainable non weather sensitive way to produce food. Im thankful I live in the USA where I can get food whenever, where as some people can only eat a little bit a day while they hope that their harvest of whatever they are growing is good that season.
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