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Old 04-20-2011, 08:35 AM   #21
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Looks like they reversed this ruling. The humans caught on.
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:25 AM   #22
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At least there is no fee for allowing kids to pump up on a swing and jump off....

Sheeeet...we used to do that in school and I'm surprised I never broke any bones with some of the distance/air I got. I did learn the fun way that when using a swing, once you pass the parallel-with-the-ground point, that you end up going backwords and going into a freefall until the chains jerk you to a stop while falling nearly head-first toward the Earth....and sometimes the chains proved to be too srong for the rubber seat...which would break...and send you down for a nice meeting with Mother Earth. Oh the days.....
No ****. I remember traveling what had to have been 15 vertical feet and horizontally probably 25 feet and landing with no injury. If I tried that today I would't walk for months.

People today make me sick with this babying **** with children. ******* let them be kids, like they have been since the beginnings of humanity. All of this nobody loses bullshit, and protecting them from dangerous activities. that's part of growing up and learning. This generation of children will be so ill prepared for the real world when the time comes to crawl from under the protection of their fathers ball sack.
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that's the point. A nanny state needs dependent children.
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that's the point. A nanny state needs dependent children.
Yep. We are selling all of ourselves further into their dependence. While they take more and more from us every day. "They" already get nearly half of our income through taxes, might as well just give them all of it and accept our terms of slavery or serfdom. At this rate we will never get out of it.
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It's okay, the gov't is paying out SS more than it's taking in. So you have nothing to worry about come retirement.


The awful thing is there are a large number of voters that think the gov't is awesome and doe a good job, should provide us everything, and hate the wealthy.

they think the gov't is awesome because the gov't give them free stuff, so they continue to vote them into power.

they think the gov't should provide us everything becuase they've become acustom to getting free stuff, so they continue to ask for more and more.

and they hate the wealthy because the wealthy makes a profit off their labor in exchange for a wage. They resent the ability, ambition, drive, innovation, sacrifice and risks the wealthy have and take. So they continue to lobby against them.

So since the goal is control (IE power), the gov't is smart and takes more and more from the wealthy, demonizes them and continues the cycle.


The problem is without the wealthy, none of this could continue. Atlas needs to shrug.

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It's okay, the gov't is paying out SS more than it's taking in. So you have nothing to worry about come retirement.


The awful thing is there are a large number of voters that think the gov't is awesome and doe a good job, should provide us everything, and hate the wealthy.

they think the gov't is awesome because the gov't give them free stuff, so they continue to vote them into power.

they think the gov't should provide us everything becuase they've become acustom to getting free stuff, so they continue to ask for more and more.

and they hate the wealthy because the wealthy makes a profit off their labor in exchange for a wage. They resent the ability, ambition, drive, sacrifice and risks the wealthy have and take. So they continue to lobby against them.

So since the goal is control (IE power), the gov't is smart and takes more and more from the wealthy, demonizes them and continues the cycle.
There will be no SS left when I retire. I'll have to work till I die. Since soon no one will be able to afford to save for retirement.
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There will be no SS left when I retire. I'll have to work till I die. Since soon no one will be able to afford to save for retirement.

Yep. It is impossible for an individual to save his own money and plan for his own future.
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Yep. It is impossible for an individual to save his own money and plan for his own future.
With as much as the government takes, and as expensive as the cost of living and amenities are becoming, it's tough for a lot of people to save any meaningful amount of money. For a lot it's hard enough to even pay the bill to keep the lights on. So yes, for a lot of people it is impossible. I'm not one, just making a point.
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It's okay, the gov't is paying out SS more than it's taking in. So you have nothing to worry about come retirement.


The awful thing is there are a large number of voters that think the gov't is awesome and doe a good job, should provide us everything, and hate the wealthy.

they think the gov't is awesome because the gov't give them free stuff, so they continue to vote them into power.

they think the gov't should provide us everything becuase they've become acustom to getting free stuff, so they continue to ask for more and more.

and they hate the wealthy because the wealthy makes a profit off their labor in exchange for a wage. They resent the ability, ambition, drive, innovation, sacrifice and risks the wealthy have and take. So they continue to lobby against them.

So since the goal is control (IE power), the gov't is smart and takes more and more from the wealthy, demonizes them and continues the cycle.


The problem is without the wealthy, none of this could continue. Atlas needs to shrug.




How many people do you personally know that are truly wealthy?
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the gov't considers anyone making over 250,000 a year as wealthy. I know a bunch. and I work under all of them.

They also email me at 11pm at night, working non stop.


Is your post suggesting that there are very few "truely" wealthy and they hog all the wealth? Would that then make them a minority? and shouldn't minority rights be protected against the majority whom takes advatange of them?

How much money do you think your represenatives make off their clout?
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With as much as the government takes, and as expensive as the cost of living and amenities are becoming, it's tough for a lot of people to save any meaningful amount of money. For a lot it's hard enough to even pay the bill to keep the lights on. So yes, for a lot of people it is impossible. I'm not one, just making a point.
It's really hard to apply yourself, set long-term goals, and realize them. Some of us have done it, some of us make millions, some of us are middle class.

The reality is a lack of reasonableness in welfare program implementation. I don't mind paying welfare as "protection money", but when we have priority problems "solved" by welfare and Planned Parenthood, I take objection. However as you know, governments can't ask questions about personal priorities like cable-TV, car payments, and bank statements because that's a violation of privacy, however checking my anus at the airport is not a privacy issue.
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How many people do you personally know that are truly wealthy?
Why does that matter? If you applied yourself, time and planning came together, and you scored $250k you too could be one of the many.

If grocery welfare were secured, hell, that's about $300 per month I could save and after a few months I could have that OS Giken diff.
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the gov't considers anyone making over 250,000 a year as wealthy. I know a bunch. and I work under all of them.

They also email me at 11pm at night, working non stop.


Is your post suggesting that there are very few "truely" wealthy and they hog all the wealth? Would that then make them a minority? and shouldn't minority rights be protected against the majority whom takes advatange of them?

How much money do you think your represenatives make off their clout?



Putting words in my mouth? You're jumping to conclusions again. I am not suggestion anyone is "hogging all the wealth". Just trying to understand what you consider wealthy.

Could they quit their job tomorrow and self sustain for the rest of their lives?

Do you feel your employers are victims?
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Putting words in my mouth? You're jumping to conclusions again. I am not suggestion anyone is "hogging all the wealth". Just trying to understand what you consider wealthy.

Could they quit their job tomorrow and self sustain for the rest of their lives?

Do you feel your employers are victims?
Capitol Hill already told the nation that $250k was obscenely wealthy.
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