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Old 04-16-2013, 09:42 AM   #1
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I stumbled across this yesterday in my searches Wideband Air/Fuel Ratio Tuning

Anyone have any experience or tried one of these out?
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You could have linked the the page with the price and a picture of it. Looks like a circuit board with only a few tracings and I'm assuming the components on the back. To me, based on the tracings I dont think there is enough going on that board to actually be a wideband controller. But I'm not an EE, I just occasionally play one (poorly) on the weekends.
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I already have an LC-1, Just throwing it out there and curious if anyone on here has tried one. On this page it appears as though someone with a NB has the setup working:BPSX D1 Digital Wideband WBO Controller (Controller+Enclosure+Display+LSU 4.2+Bung) | Wideband Air/Fuel Ratio Tuning
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horrible documentation. not much cheaper than an LC-1. no info. DIY-grade components/packing.
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for 27.99 for just the controller, I may give it a try vs. my lc1 just because I'm curious to know how well it works. Everything has to start somewhere, I'm sure megasquirt wasn't the big hit it is now when it was first introduced.
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it's your time/money.
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I'm about to switch to AEM, ya'll.
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I'm about to switch to AEM, ya'll.
The thing I like about the aem, is that it just works, and doesnt require you to have a heat sensative box mounted somewhere closish to your exhaust. I dont like the gauge and I dont like the lack of adjustability. As much as I complain about the LC1 dying if it gets hot at all, the one in my subie broke free from its mounts and was sitting on my down pipe for a while. It is quite melted looking now and takes longer than normal to heat up the sensor.
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I really hate the blinky lights though. I suppose I can use a paint marker on them and take away the pain.
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so don't mount the controller in the elements. Mine is behind the radio.

the MTX-L's controller is within the gauge like the AEM and doesn't suck as much.
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The thing I like about the aem, is that it just works, and doesnt require you to have a heat sensative box mounted somewhere closish to your exhaust. I dont like the gauge and I dont like the lack of adjustability. As much as I complain about the LC1 dying if it gets hot at all, the one in my subie broke free from its mounts and was sitting on my down pipe for a while. It is quite melted looking now and takes longer than normal to heat up the sensor.
I've had an lc-1 die on me after a year for no reason and innovate pretty much told me to get fucked we can't do anything for you, that left a bad taste in my mouth. Not to mention the lc-1 isn't even made by innovate, but instead somewhere overseas (probably China) and they don't know how to repair the unit and state that it is not serviceable.
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so don't mount the controller in the elements. Mine is behind the radio.
I've never had a long enough o2 sensor lead for that to work/a big enough hole in the firewall/under car to fit the o2 through.

Yeah and they're also dicks.
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so don't mount the controller in the elements. Mine is behind the radio.

the MTX-L's controller is within the gauge like the AEM and doesn't suck as much.
+1. MTX-L has been great for me.
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I have a policy where products that only last four years get replaced with something else. They can do better or at least offer me a rebate, they didn't, so we'll try someone else.
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Kinda ricey, but I have the glowshift wideband atm and haven't had any issues with it. Course I haven't started tuning with it yet or anything. I got it for $160 shipped on one of their sale days and a rebate code.
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I've had an lc-1 die on me after a year for no reason and innovate pretty much told me to get fucked we can't do anything for you, that left a bad taste in my mouth. Not to mention the lc-1 isn't even made by innovate, but instead somewhere overseas (probably China) and they don't know how to repair the unit and state that it is not serviceable.
Pretty much. My Innovate was great for a while, and then it wouldn't hold free air calibrations and a new sensor didn't help. Switched to an AEM and never looked back.
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My innovate worked pretty much flawlessly for approximately 4 years. One day it randomly decided to take a crap on me. I called innovate and sent it to them, within a few weeks, no questions asked I had a either new or fixed unit. I sold it to a local friend and he has never had a single issue with it, meanwhile I havent had a single issue with my mtx-l whatsoever.
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Aem all the way. Pay high price for AEM but get ultra high quality for it
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I'm about to switch to AEM, ya'll.

This. Best decision I ever made. Had to calibrate that goddamn lc1 almost every other month and just got sick of it overall. I like/dislike the gauge at the same time. Product OP posted with the digital gauge in your speedo was cool:

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