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Stephanie Turner 09-16-2010 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by Underway (Post 630333)
I don't know where it is sent from the distributor, it's on it's way there now. I'll post the letter I enclosed with the turbo next. Would it be possible to mate the CHRA at an angle if I only loosened the housing bolts by 1/2 turn?

Were other bolts loose too? Assembling it wrong can kill it too.


both are brand new and I used distilled water,
Still could be a piston ring, or something like that. Or metal shavings from various parts or fittings used.

Did you check the inside of the manifold?
Stephanie

rharris19 09-16-2010 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by ScottFW (Post 629758)
Wirelessly posted

The best bagels are boiled and baked New York style. When I lived in houston I'd drive 15 minutes each way to this one shop because it was the best in town. Bagels made by real old school Jews. Or at least by Mexicans under the direct supervision of Jews. They had a banana nut bagel that I still long for.

I also need to know where this is and why I have never heard of it. It's like El Ray, I didn't know about it and that place is amazing.

leatherface24 09-16-2010 04:21 PM

you need these
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or this
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ScottFW 09-16-2010 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by rharris19 (Post 630769)
I also need to know where this is and why I have never heard of it. It's like El Ray, I didn't know about it and that place is amazing.

New York Bagel Shop
9724 Hillcroft St (just S of South Braeswood)
Houston 77096

MezJr 09-16-2010 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by ScottFW (Post 630828)
New York Bagel Shop
9724 Hillcroft St (just S of South Braeswood)
Houston 77096

oh yeah, way Jewish part of town... makes sense... will eat.

hustler 09-16-2010 07:13 PM

El Ray is El win.

Underway 09-16-2010 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by Stephanie Turner (Post 630755)
Were other bolts loose too? Assembling it wrong can kill it too.
I loosened the six hot side bolts 1/2 each in a criss cross patern, clocked it then tighten them, criss cross in stages to the recommended torque. Exactly how the included instructions say. They didn't mentions centering but i did rotate the shaft by hand afterwards and there was no binding.

Still could be a piston ring, or something like that. Or metal shavings from various parts or fittings used. I'm a boyscout about taping off all the ports on anything I'm working on. I ran a nut through a small block in high school, lesson learned. Good compression all the way across, can't do a leak down right now, I don't have the kit.

Did you check the inside of the manifold? Checked out the entire inside of the exhaust manifold with a dental mirror and and flash light. I didn't see anything, No marks, scratches, or gremlins ;)

Stephanie

I am new to turbos and I know Garretts rep (That's why I bought it!) but I really don't see how this is my fault. (sheds tear ;) )

Stephanie, thank you for the interest, you're keeping me on my toes and making me think about anything I might have missed.

hustler 09-16-2010 09:00 PM

Can you push the turbine into the side of the housing?

Underway 09-17-2010 01:13 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 630915)
Can you push the turbine into the side of the housing?


After the original assembly, no. After the meltdown, just barely.

Speaking of, when I looked at it I swear it looks more like the turbine melted and deposited metal on the housing. It's tough to see in pictures and the turbo is already on it's fantastic voyage so I can't take more.

WonTon 09-17-2010 01:24 AM


Originally Posted by Underway (Post 630339)
I have friends that worked at Dunkin Donuts in high school...I miss those days.

man, i hate workin there!

im not racist, but for the love of god indians do not need to own resturants. if they didnt take over the chain and things were done the good ole fashoned way that place would be makin some killer bank! not to mention the wages would be a lil higher!

when they took over they ditched the kitchen and started ordering all the donuts and having them brought in once a day! when that happend they dropped the pay from salary (equaled out to bout 11 bucks an hour) to 8 bucks an hour. the mother fuckers cant even pay their bills. there bout to repo our pepsi cooler cause they arnt payin for the shit! :giggle:

mazpr 09-19-2010 11:52 AM

Bagels and turbos, What the hell is goin on?

topsdrop 09-19-2010 08:35 PM

One of the fins in the photo is shiny on the outer edge, and none of the others are shiny. Seems odd, as if it something hit the front face of the impeller wheel.

Also, Ive looked at a lot of turbo wheels and have never seen fins that have a almost chiseled look like in the photo. All of the wheels Ive ever looked at were very smooth and finished.

99mx5 09-20-2010 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by mazpr (Post 631851)
Bagels and turbos, and dildos on bikes. What the hell is goin on?

Fixed.

Underway 10-10-2010 10:01 PM

And the lastest... Nothing, still waiting on Garrett's verdict.


Originally Posted by topsdrop (Post 631999)
One of the fins in the photo is shiny on the outer edge, and none of the others are shiny. Seems odd, as if it something hit the front face of the impeller wheel.

Also, Ive looked at a lot of turbo wheels and have never seen fins that have a almost chiseled look like in the photo. All of the wheels Ive ever looked at were very smooth and finished.

I think you might being seeing the one blade with white paint on it. All the turbos I've seen have one blade on each side color marked. Must be for balancing or indexing, I'm not really sure. As far as the chiseling... I have no idea.

I'll let you know if I when I hear from Garrett.

midnitehour 10-10-2010 10:42 PM


Originally Posted by Underway (Post 628495)


Got it, clocked it and torqued it exactly to Garrett spec. Installed, oil primed.

the part whey you clocked it may be where they'll get you on the warranty.

i've ruined a turbo by clocking and not properly seating the CHRA in the compressor housing.

was the shaft still straight after this happened? I'd be super surprised if the blade contact didn't bend it.

best of luck.

BoostedTrixx 10-11-2010 11:58 AM

Am I missing something on this "Teflon tape"? The way Stephanie stated her post or at least the way I read the context, it seems as if there is a negative to Teflon tape?

Braineack 10-11-2010 12:11 PM

there is.

Underway 10-29-2010 12:55 AM

1 Attachment(s)
After six weeks at Garrett this is the report they sent. (see pic)

As a side note, Just to get the car on the track, I removed the manifold and downpipe and added a china header. The Link has a map for N/A Big injectors and after some fine tuning the car ran great at Roebling. No abrasive anything flying out of the motor. I guess I had more faith in their engineers coming up with something better then that. This is almost insulting.

I wrote the distributor to find out if there is a way to have it re-evaluated or if I should call my lawyer. I'll keep you updated.

SKMetalworks 10-29-2010 01:27 AM

Do you have a catalytic converter? If so was there any bits of shit?

Underway 10-29-2010 01:32 AM

test pipe. And the down pipe was originally coated with a ton of oil from the previous turbos non-existent seals. I would have seen something when I installed the new turbo and cleaned the WBO2. I went through the manifold with a damn dental mirror and a flex light to check for any marking...nothing.


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