BEGi is going to offer DIY kits - Page 2 - Miata Turbo Forum - Boost cars, acquire cats.

Welcome to Miataturbo.net   Members
 


DIY Turbo Discussion greddy on a 1.8? homebrew kit?

Reply
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 02-05-2009, 06:07 PM   #21
Elite Member
iTrader: (22)
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Sunny Spanish speaking Non US Caribbean
Posts: 3,257
Total Cats: 3
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FHS View Post


I think Mark had a Chinacharger in his "Ghettocharger" set-up. He said often that it worked fine and was dependable.
And I took the plunge following his suggestion and so far (knock on wood) I have been pleasantly surprised. FWIW, I used to have a Garrett T3 Super 60 but was not happy with the spool.

There are some other members using chinachargers in this forum.

I must confess though that I keep a spare used Garrett T3 in my locker just in case.
Rafa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2009, 06:32 PM   #22
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
NA6C-Guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Birmingham Alabama
Posts: 8,038
Total Cats: 43
Default

Withy the price of the chinachargers, couldnt you just keep a spare of the same? Even if mine ***** out after 30-50k miles, at $300 each, whats the big deal.
NA6C-Guy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2009, 06:41 PM   #23
Elite Member
iTrader: (15)
 
patsmx5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 8,796
Total Cats: 247
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy View Post
Withy the price of the chinachargers, couldnt you just keep a spare of the same? Even if mine ***** out after 30-50k miles, at $300 each, whats the big deal.
Hehe. It's an utter BITCH to remove my turbo. I have P/S and A/C, a -12AN braided drain line, External wastegate, 3" DP with 2" separated gasses down pipe. If I had another turbo to replace it, it would take ALL DAY to change mine. Sucks. V-bands would make life a lot easier for sure though. Still, I like having a reliable setup. It's more fun to track your **** and know it's right than to beat on it and always be thinking "what was that, did something just happen, I hope that's not the....". I daily drive mine. In college it's my only car. It has to work. Plus if I have to keep a spare $300 turbo, that negates the benefits of buying a cheaper one in the first place.
patsmx5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2009, 06:54 PM   #24
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
NA6C-Guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Birmingham Alabama
Posts: 8,038
Total Cats: 43
Default

That is true, and Im also daily driving mine, and on a fairly limited budget, so I also want my stuff to be worry free. I cant see a china charger being a huge reliability issue though. I will have to just wait and see about the prices and more info on the charger.

Besides, this car shouldnt see big power, nor should it see much track time, if any. Thats why I will be buying another project car soon after the turbo is done. If I can do a chinacharger, and an ebay intercooler for $1500, I will be happy as long as it lasts me a few years and/or 30k+ miles. Shouldnt be a huge deal to replace with just a simple setup, internal wastegate and whatnot. If it does go out though, by then I should be able to afford a real turbo without much issue. Just right now, turbo is high on my list, but my income is a bit strangled thanks to college loans, tons of bills, and not such great pay at a dead end job.
NA6C-Guy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2009, 07:02 PM   #25
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 100
Total Cats: 0
Default

Hustler I got a triple black 96 with 50K on it. It took a bit of negotiating to get it but for 1500 it is mine. He is even going to install my front shocks/springs, swaybar with brace, Oil pan with return fitting and new motor mounts for me. I will swap my diff if required before I hand off my car to the insurance company. Then once I get all my other parts in the car and I am happy the 460cc injectors go in and a turbo. I just wish I had the car already I have missed a lot of top down days in these last couple of weeks.

I see a future full of bitch slapping Porsches getting closer every day!

I was also quite surprised not to hear some Asian twins joke from Hustler over my girls.

Now for the guy going on about Jews as a race vs. religion I will not comment on that in this forum.
Eraser-X is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2009, 07:06 PM   #26
N3v
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Nashville/Knoxville, TN
Posts: 318
Total Cats: 1
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eraser-X View Post
Hustler I got a triple black 96 with 50K on it. It took a bit of negotiating to get it but for 1500 it is mine. He is even going to install my front shocks/springs, swaybar with brace, Oil pan with return fitting and new motor mounts for me.
jeeesus, are you donald trump?
N3v is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2009, 07:18 PM   #27
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 100
Total Cats: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by N3v View Post
jeeesus, are you donald trump?
No I have much better hair!
Eraser-X is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2009, 07:34 PM   #28
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: San Diego
Posts: 65
Total Cats: 0
Default

Almost any turbo is better then no turbo. Journal or ball bearing shouldnt even be an issue as response difference is bearly noticeable. On 2 equally tuned cars @ 250 HP is gonna feel better the 155HP non-turbo. anyways boost it and have fun. Damn it just started raining :(
LowBoostn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2009, 07:35 PM   #29
Tour de Franzia
iTrader: (6)
 
hustler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Republic of Dallas
Posts: 29,114
Total Cats: 351
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eraser-X View Post
I see a future full of bitch slapping Porsches getting closer every day!

I was also quite surprised not to hear some Asian twins joke from Hustler over my girls.
I will join you for the bloodletting. I need a 250whp "runnin-buddy" for HHR.

I never thought to make jokes about your children...that's not exactly my style. Give me a little more credit. I stick to gay jokes and e-thugging because its harmless. If I had kids and some douche on the internet made fun of them, I'd be offended; if it were someone I let in my house, well, I'd invite him over for a beer...then chop his hands off, hang him from the ceiling, and get the steel-wool and pool-acid from the other thread and get to work. Sorry to digress and derail the thread.
hustler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2009, 08:05 PM   #30
Junior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 271
Total Cats: 0
Default

I emailed begi last week about a diy kit, all i wanted was the manifold turbo and dp. They told me 1700. I closed the email and said "**** off" in my head......A cast manifold, gt25 and a dp cost 1700 bucks???? LOL right........
FastColt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2009, 08:26 PM   #31
Junior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Brunswick, Maryland
Posts: 262
Total Cats: 0
Default

Hustler...you are the reason I want to move to Texas...
boardboy330 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2009, 08:33 PM   #32
Elite Member
iTrader: (5)
 
akaryrye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Central California
Posts: 2,526
Total Cats: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FastColt View Post
I emailed begi last week about a diy kit, all i wanted was the manifold turbo and dp. They told me 1700. I closed the email and said "**** off" in my head......A cast manifold, gt25 and a dp cost 1700 bucks???? LOL right........
the turbo is half of the cost in that equation.
akaryrye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2009, 08:46 PM   #33
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Lexington, SC
Posts: 2,084
Total Cats: 0
Default

yeah anything GT**** is gonna run around 700-800
mazda/nissan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2009, 09:18 PM   #34
Elite Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Saml01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: NYC
Posts: 5,730
Total Cats: 2
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy View Post
Withy the price of the chinachargers, couldnt you just keep a spare of the same? Even if mine ***** out after 30-50k miles, at $300 each, whats the big deal.
Because then you would have spent 600 that could have been spent on a GT2560, used, but a GT2560 none the less with an arguably better reputation.
Saml01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2009, 09:19 PM   #35
Junior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 233
Total Cats: 0
Default

I'd rather pay a little more and get the s or ssm kit without cross over pipe then diy the IC and pipes
whitena is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2009, 09:20 PM   #36
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Lexington, SC
Posts: 2,084
Total Cats: 0
Default

if Begi is happy with a chinacharger then I will be too
mazda/nissan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2009, 09:48 PM   #37
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
NA6C-Guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Birmingham Alabama
Posts: 8,038
Total Cats: 43
Default

Unless they raise the prices of the turbo, or try to say it costs more (sort of like I expect they do with the GT turbos), the $250-$300 it should cost would be perfectly fine with me. Even if it only lasts the 10 months they have tested it, for that cost to me it would be worth it. A rebuild is only ~$100 (for me anyway). Not that much work every year or so. But I would expect to see much more life out of the turbo than that. I have seen on some other forums people having great success with some off brand turbochargers. But if they expect to get $1500 or more for one of these kits they are crazy. If its not at least ~$1200-$1400 for manifold, turbo, downpipe and maybe a few extra little bits, its not worth it. Seeing as the S kit minus a few options I dont need is only $1800ish.
NA6C-Guy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2009, 10:13 PM   #38
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Lexington, SC
Posts: 2,084
Total Cats: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy View Post
Unless they raise the prices of the turbo, or try to say it costs more (sort of like I expect they do with the GT turbos), the $250-$300 it should cost would be perfectly fine with me. Even if it only lasts the 10 months they have tested it, for that cost to me it would be worth it. A rebuild is only ~$100 (for me anyway). Not that much work every year or so. But I would expect to see much more life out of the turbo than that. I have seen on some other forums people having great success with some off brand turbochargers. But if they expect to get $1500 or more for one of these kits they are crazy. If its not at least ~$1200-$1400 for manifold, turbo, downpipe and maybe a few extra little bits, its not worth it. Seeing as the S kit minus a few options I dont need is only $1800ish.
I think the kit should be around 1000 even
mazda/nissan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2009, 10:19 PM   #39
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
NA6C-Guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Birmingham Alabama
Posts: 8,038
Total Cats: 43
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mazda/nissan View Post
I think the kit should be around 1000 even
I think it should be free, but yeah, $1000 would surely work. Manifold $450-$500, downpipe $500-$550 for the S/G in 3'' outlet, and turbo surely no more than $300-$400 after any modifications needed to make it bolt up and FIT correctly. So I would still be happy with $1200 for something as simple as that, leaving the rest of the minor parts for the person buying. I can fix up my own intercooler, and already have the lines and other bits.

I wonder if its going to be a T3 or T25 based turbine. Surely they would have it so it works with all of their existing parts.
NA6C-Guy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2009, 10:22 PM   #40
Former Vendor
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Texas Hill Country
Posts: 271
Total Cats: 16
Default

There are a variety of emotions here regarding the turbos made in China.

My reading hobby for the last 40 years has been World War II, and world history since then. The years since paint a variety of pictures regarding what China is and ain't. It remains a bit tough to be happy with those guys, but the ones I have become acquainted with are the same as myself, trying to earn a living and save to retirement.

Politically, send them south....... but if they are good craftsmen and can make a proper turbocharger that offers enthusiasts a less expensive performance option, and keeps their working class employed without serious political disadvantage to America, then go for it. Almost all American Corporations share the same feelings..... even Garrett.

The whole gamut of turbos are available, BB's and all. While our tests have been rather limited, all remain positive as of today.

The net result is: .... we shall see what we shall see....
Corky Bell is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Project Gemini - Turbo Civic on the Cheap Full_Tilt_Boogie Build Threads 57 07-19-2017 05:11 PM
OTS Bilstein to motorsports ASN conversion stoves Suspension, Brakes, Drivetrain 5 04-21-2016 04:00 PM
Expected intake temps on the track? tazswing Race Prep 20 10-03-2015 12:04 PM
Noob to Miataturbo from MA JxPhan Meet and Greet 3 10-02-2015 03:17 AM
Walbro 255lph Fuel Pump $50 lsc224 Miata parts for sale/trade 2 10-01-2015 10:17 AM


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:37 AM.