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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 09:43 PM
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http://pages.sbcglobal.net/jcuadra/etd/

The videos make the collector construction clear.
Old Aug 13, 2007 | 09:48 PM
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 10:08 PM
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Get a photobucket, imageshack account. It'll be way faster for us all.

That mani looks great though. I wonder how well they perform. Sure they do well.
Old Aug 13, 2007 | 10:48 PM
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I dunno. That's pretty bold not pointing the gases from 1 and 4 into the turbo instead of at each other...

Are you happy with the construction? T25 flange?
Old Aug 14, 2007 | 02:16 AM
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Yes I'm quite pleased.
I will port the part where the runners enter the T25 flange, the gases see a step. Shouldn't be too hard.

But first, I have to get my BMW running. The guy who will mod the BEGI downpipe to mate with the new turbo location will take 3 days. If I don't have a 2nd car, I can't visit him to check on his progress. Gotta send the BMW head out for porting and a valve job.
Old Aug 14, 2007 | 02:21 AM
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So y8s, where should I put thermal relief cuts?
Old Aug 14, 2007 | 02:22 AM
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Yeah 2nd cars kick ***. Grats on the nice manifold. What size turbo?
Old Aug 14, 2007 | 02:41 AM
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So the idea with this manifold is to have a "best of both worlds" between log type and tubular/ram horn type?

Looks really good!
Old Aug 14, 2007 | 10:01 AM
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So y8s, where should I put thermal relief cuts?
Don't do relief cuts.

I've had two of those manifolds, a 1.6 and a 1.8...

On the first one (1.6), I made relief cuts and it cracked regularily. John at ETD said it was the cuts causing it.

I got a second one for my 1.8, didn't make any cuts and it is fine, no cracks.
Old Aug 14, 2007 | 10:20 AM
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yeah I dont know that you need relief cuts (or that I did heh!)

The pipes aren't a single piece like a cast manifold so there is room for expansion and bending.

The thing I had an issue with on my ETD was flange flatness. You may want to have both flanges skimmed to get them flat again.

I admit I'm a little jealous. I bet yours flows as good or better than mine and weighs about half as much.
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I called em and they said they had way more cracking with cut manifolds than those without. They also said they heat cycle 'em and re-skim 'em flat.

Don't be jealous. My turbo is like Peewee Herman to your John Holmes special.

I'll be porting the turbo side flange a bit, the gases see a step going from the tubes to the flange.

kotomile the idea is to NOT FKN have the gases turn sharp corners like almost every other cast mani out there.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 12:17 PM
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Nice manifold!
Old Aug 15, 2007 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonC SBB
I called em and they said they had way more cracking with cut manifolds than those without. They also said they heat cycle 'em and re-skim 'em flat.
Nice that they do that now.

My head flange was about as straight as a politician.
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Jason,

Any data on the new manifold? How does it compare to the AVO or better yet with the new Begi "directed pulse" cast manifold?
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Jason,

Any data on the new manifold? How does it compare to the AVO or better yet with the new Begi "directed pulse" cast manifold?

Jason, sent you a PM. You haven't posted in a while. Hopefully you are still around.

I am considering this manifold and would like to know your results as well.

Thanks,
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Old Mar 29, 2008 | 05:37 PM
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Looks good, guess you are not running an external waste gate. you think it would be possible to add one to this type of header?

I'm going to be using a tial 38mm.
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They offer that manifold with an external wastegate flange added on. You can see it in the pictures.
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Originally Posted by MazDilla
Jason, sent you a PM. You haven't posted in a while. Hopefully you are still around.

I am considering this manifold and would like to know your results as well.

Thanks,
-Josh
I've received a couple of PM's but nothing from Jason. Yep, still around. The ETD looks interesting and I'm curious about the benefits from a design standpoint. But if I ever upgrade I'm probably going to lean towards an "Absurdflow" mani from TurboTim. That boy can weld!! Just take a look at Paul's setup.
Old Mar 31, 2008 | 09:04 AM
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Thanks Riccardo!

I'm going to make a couple manifolds in the next month or so. That way if someone wants one they don't have to wait. Bla bla bla. I jsut feel like building two.



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