coolant reroute sensor/begi kit
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coolant reroute sensor/begi kit
I have the bell reroute kit. I ordered the one which exits only through the rear of the head, but I think I got the dual exit one. I already have a plug in the front of the head. I have a 99 motor going into a 1.6 car.
I see no reason why I can't just leave the front plugged up, and take the coolant only from the rear. However, what do I do with the front coolant temp sensor? I'm running MS, so do I even need it? If I get the something tapped for the sensor, I assume it needs to go post-thermostat, like the original design.
basically I have this fitting:
so I now have no where to put the front CLT sensor on the radiator side, and can't put the rear on the hot side where it belongs. , behind the t-stat.
Now, I can use this factory flange, and stick the CLT from the front side of the motor here:
but now I need a place to screw in the sensor which was originally on the back side of the head, on the hot side of the t-stat.
Thanks for the help.
I see no reason why I can't just leave the front plugged up, and take the coolant only from the rear. However, what do I do with the front coolant temp sensor? I'm running MS, so do I even need it? If I get the something tapped for the sensor, I assume it needs to go post-thermostat, like the original design.
basically I have this fitting:
so I now have no where to put the front CLT sensor on the radiator side, and can't put the rear on the hot side where it belongs. , behind the t-stat.
Now, I can use this factory flange, and stick the CLT from the front side of the motor here:
but now I need a place to screw in the sensor which was originally on the back side of the head, on the hot side of the t-stat.
Thanks for the help.
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So I talked to BRG racer, and Matt Cramer confirmed that since I'm using MS, I don't need the front swtich. However, the pipe is in the way of the rear CLT sensor port (above the nipple), so I still have to drill/tap.
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Its going to be a car I can daily if need be. If I end up moving like I plan on, I'm going to sell the other cars and just have this green one.
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I'll look at the back of a 99 head today. I thought they had a gauge sender in the same place, but to be honest I've never looked at one that closely before.
Either way, it's a simple task to drill and tap a port for the sender.
Either way, it's a simple task to drill and tap a port for the sender.
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Whereas the 1.6 engine has two separate CLT sensors at the back, one for the ECU and one for the dash gauge, the NBs have a single sensor with a three pin connector that does both. Said sensor, so far as I'm aware, goes into the head itself.
The 1.8 NA has two sensors, but I'm not sure where they are relative to the 1.6.
The 1.8 NA has two sensors, but I'm not sure where they are relative to the 1.6.
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Whereas the 1.6 engine has two separate CLT sensors at the back, one for the ECU and one for the dash gauge, the NBs have a single sensor with a three pin connector that does both. Said sensor, so far as I'm aware, goes into the head itself.
The 1.8 NA has two sensors, but I'm not sure where they are relative to the 1.6.
The 1.8 NA has two sensors, but I'm not sure where they are relative to the 1.6.
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thanks ben. I didn't expect the sensor to be on the side.
the problem is this sensor is on the wrong side of the thermostat, which is where this problem started. What goes in the 99503 spot? Hopefully its a plug which threads the 1.6 gauge sensor.
the problem is this sensor is on the wrong side of the thermostat, which is where this problem started. What goes in the 99503 spot? Hopefully its a plug which threads the 1.6 gauge sensor.
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Na 1.6
This is the info for the NA 1.6. Sorry this older page from the electronic parts catalog has a whole lot of extra stuff on it that I edited out, and while I was in MS Paint you eager bastards had to post and break the thread up.
18-510 is the temp sender to the gauge
18-840C (rear of engine) is the temp sender to the PCM
18-501 is the oil press sender
18-840C (front of engine) is the thermoswitch that activates the cooling fan
I left the bottom left Cali-Only caption there so you could see that CA emissions cars have the shorting plug at the pass dash. I don't know what it does. But even though it's not 100% relevant to the topic on hand, I figured it was a distinction worth showing while it was on my screen.
18-510 is the temp sender to the gauge
18-840C (rear of engine) is the temp sender to the PCM
18-501 is the oil press sender
18-840C (front of engine) is the thermoswitch that activates the cooling fan
I left the bottom left Cali-Only caption there so you could see that CA emissions cars have the shorting plug at the pass dash. I don't know what it does. But even though it's not 100% relevant to the topic on hand, I figured it was a distinction worth showing while it was on my screen.
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thanks ben. I didn't expect the sensor to be on the side.
the problem is this sensor is on the wrong side of the thermostat, which is where this problem started. What goes in the 99503 spot? Hopefully its a plug which threads the 1.6 gauge sensor.
the problem is this sensor is on the wrong side of the thermostat, which is where this problem started. What goes in the 99503 spot? Hopefully its a plug which threads the 1.6 gauge sensor.