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beerslurpy 07-26-2007 09:49 PM

That is a good point.

Braineack 07-26-2007 09:53 PM

Once my junk is back up and running, I'm doing this.

Ben 07-26-2007 09:58 PM

we should mock up a plate and get a few of them water jetted.

anyone near me have a spare 1.6 cam cover I could hang on to for a couple weeks?

Braineack 07-26-2007 10:00 PM

what?! This looks like a job for zip ties and JB Weld! :gay:

neogenesis2004 07-26-2007 10:15 PM

iv got this ginormous sheet of Al sitting in my living room that was gonna be the base for my front under tray. I think it can spare a short strip for use as a COP holder.

lazzer408 07-26-2007 11:29 PM

I run between 10-15psi and just changed my plugs. They were gapped at .045" ! I thought I had them at .032". So anyways it's firing a .045" gap under boost.

beerslurpy 07-27-2007 01:26 AM

That's my kind of news. Kickass.

lazzer408 07-27-2007 02:10 AM

Hey braineack in on it now? I must have started something good. :bigtu:

honeydesean 07-27-2007 04:29 PM

Ok, so installation pics on a 1.6.

Step 1: Cut out your igniter box(leaving enough wire on the plug just in case things get fubar). Relocate the EGR plug and ground wire to the front bolt hole for the mounting plate of the igniter. (Is 1/2 hidden by the big wire loom on the right). Also tape up the red and white wires, you won't need these to be connected to anything anymore.
http://www.ilostmymind.com/upload/step1.jpg

Step 2: Get your connecters and label them so that they follow this pattern (TOYOTA PLUGS/CONNECTORS ONLY, anything else may be different)
http://www.ilostmymind.com/upload/step2.jpg

Step 3: Using Lazzers diagram FOUND HERE wire your plugs together and add the required length of wire to reach where the igniter box was. It's best to use 12gauge wire for power and ground and 16gauge wire for the trigger and tach. *Also, note the extra ground wire and how the coils are numbered (it's a good idea just to ensure you don't mix anything up while connecting all the wires)
http://www.ilostmymind.com/upload/step3.jpg

Step 4: Here a good ground location for the extra ground on the head is shown (it has a bolt in it, it's just removed in this picture)
http://www.ilostmymind.com/upload/step4.jpg

Step 5: Using Lazzers diagram again, connect the Ground, Triggers, Tach, and 12v to the wires that were going into the igniter box.
http://www.ilostmymind.com/upload/step5.jpg

Step 6: Wrap all the wires in electrical tape and tuck them away however you like.
http://www.ilostmymind.com/upload/step6.jpg

Step 7: The plugs will vibrate up off the valve cover if you don't fasten them to it. You can still drive the car, but doing so for an extended period of time will cause some problems. This parts up to you how you'd like to do it. I'm planning on JB Welding(or just regular welding) on 4 nuts to the valve cover and bolting the coils down to them.
http://www.ilostmymind.com/upload/step7.jpg

Enjoy!

Braineack 07-27-2007 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by lazzer408 (Post 134826)
Hey braineack in on it now? I must have started something good. :bigtu:


there's no reason not to! especially at the price tag.

Splitime 07-27-2007 05:44 PM

Instead of modding the valve cover... what about making a plate that holds them from above... and bolts that go down to the plug wire 10mm bolt locations?

neogenesis2004 07-27-2007 11:56 PM

yar, that be wat im gonna do matey!

reddroptop 07-28-2007 01:16 AM

Anybody been able to source the plugs yet?

honeydesean 07-28-2007 01:30 AM

You mean the connectors? Re-read the thread if you're looking for plugs, it mentions a couple places. I got mine on ebay.

Right now the connectors are solely coming from junkyards from what I understand.

lazzer408 07-28-2007 01:46 AM


Originally Posted by honeydesean (Post 134997)
You mean the connectors? Re-read the thread if you're looking for plugs, it mentions a couple places. I got mine on ebay.

Right now the connectors are solely coming from junkyards from what I understand.

Sean do you mean coils? Coils or connectors are both from ebay and/or junkyards.

Nice pics Sean! :bigtu: Worth 1000 words especially pointing out the extra ground wire and location for grounding.

beerslurpy 07-28-2007 03:12 AM

I can find what appear to be the correct COPs easily but I can't find the wires. PM me if you find the harness that hooks up to the COPs. Thanks.

Those of you who already PMed me, keep up the good work.

lazzer408 07-28-2007 05:59 AM

I did a bit of investigating and I THINK these connectors are manufactured by a company which I've already contacted about the connector. They seem to make connectors ranging from injectors to atx power supply type. (molex) I'll keep you updated. =)

Company Name: Yueqing Brifar Electric Co., Ltd.
Contact Person: Kevin Wang

Address: 917 Xinfu East Road, Hongqiao Town, Yueqing City, Zhejiang Province. China
Zip: 325608
Telephone: 86-577-61313666
Mobile Phone: 86-13968727921
Fax: 86-577-27813588
Website: http://www.brifar.com
http://brifar.en.alibaba.com


Here's some more coils on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TOYOT...spagenameZWD1V

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TOYOT...spagenameZWD1V 16 available $14.62 each.

Just to update another piece of information. The coils are used in the following vehicles.

Chevy Prism '98-'02
Pontiac Vibe '03-'07
TOYOTA Corolla '98-02
TOYOTA MR2 Spider '00-05
TOYOTA AVENSIS 1.6i 3ZZ-FE N/A 2000-03
TOYOTA AVENSIS 1.8i 1ZZ-FE N/A 2000-03
TOYOTA AVENSIS 1.8i N/A N/A 2003-
TOYOTA CELICA 1.8i 1ZZ-FE N/A 1999-
TOYOTA COROLLA 1.4i 4ZZ-FE N/A 2002-
TOYOTA COROLLA 1.6i 3ZZ-FE N/A 2000-
TOYOTA COROLLA VERSO 1.6i N/A N/A 2001-
TOYOTA COROLLA VERSO 1.8i N/A N/A 2001-
TOYOTA MR2 1.8i VVTi 1ZZ-FE N/A 2000-
TOYOTA RAV 4 1.8i 1ZZ-FE N/A 2000-

Ben 07-28-2007 08:28 AM

There are a lot of companies (mainly in China) that make a compatible molded connector. Problem is they will have large minimum orders (1000 or3000 are typical) plus you have to wait for manufacturing + shipping time from China. Could take 90 days.

While having the harness would be easiest, what it looks like I am going to do is get some crimp-on/solder-on mini spades and make my own leads. It's not tough: solder on the spades to 4 wires, plug spades into the indiviudal terminals, and fill the connector with epoxy.

soflarick 07-28-2007 11:01 AM

I have a Hydra and intend to do this swap. I assume the Hydra can handle sequential coil firing. I have to figure out how to configure it for sequential. With COPs like this, esp from a different vehicle, and firing sequential, how should the coil dwell settings be changed?

lazzer408 07-28-2007 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 135026)
There are a lot of companies (mainly in China) that make a compatible molded connector. Problem is they will have large minimum orders (1000 or3000 are typical) plus you have to wait for manufacturing + shipping time from China. Could take 90 days.

While having the harness would be easiest, what it looks like I am going to do is get some crimp-on/solder-on mini spades and make my own leads. It's not tough: solder on the spades to 4 wires, plug spades into the indiviudal terminals, and fill the connector with epoxy.

Spades suck. Solder it straight to the coil's terminals and epoxy it. :)


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