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Twodoor 07-07-2014 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by Erat (Post 1145750)
The first attempt was the exact result i expected after people want to turbo a miata after the MCM episode.

Perhaps, but the MCM guys did use some engine management... even tried to use a Megasquirt but the one the bought on EBay didn't work right, so ended up using something else... they didn't try to run ALLOFIT on the stock ECU :giggle:

Keith

Leafy 07-07-2014 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by Twodoor (Post 1146287)
Perhaps, but the MCM guys did use some engine management... even tried to use a Megasquirt but the one the bought on EBay didn't work right, so ended up using something else... they didn't try to run ALLOFIT on the stock ECU :giggle:

Keith

They used haltech because austrailia.

As much as I shit on haltech in the past I'd choose them over aem in a heartbeat because one day we couldnt get the formula car to run on e85. It was 4am and we had a race we needed to leave for in 2 hours and we called the australian number (Home HQ) for haltech and that ausie was cool as fucking shit and got us going in time. Nicest car part CS guy ever.

DNA54 07-10-2014 01:56 PM

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I have to admit that you've convinced me
ms2 is now my next step
only... the pnp for 98-00 BP seems to have different connector... I think the problem is that my car is eudm vs diyautotune's usdm
however, nothing earth-shattering.

Btw
the car is really doing her job, ran 1000 miles (it's my daily car), zero traction issues (except in 1st gear) and nice spool, but in cruise water temp continue to rise, over 100°C.
I thought the problem was i/c too low respect water radiator
so I tried to resolve with a pvc sheet:

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yesterday I tried it and...
it works!!
cruise temp is now 80°C, and in boost rises maximum at 90°C

I removed the charcoal canister and fixed that horrible upper water line too

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DNA54 07-10-2014 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1146238)
I wish the op just stuck with the log manifold, its better than the ebay one. But based on the discoloration I bet it just needs a quick shave at the machine shop to make it flat again.

that was made a second time, but the problem was stainless pipes on a mild steel flange... different coefficient of thermal expansion :dunno:

...crap, crap everywhere...

Leafy 07-10-2014 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by DNA54 (Post 1147139)
that was made a second time, but the problem was stainless pipes on a mild steel flange... different coefficient of thermal expansion :dunno:

...crap, crap everywhere...

sainless on mild has been done before. you dont have any cuts in the manifold flange though to let it move.

thenuge26 07-11-2014 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by DNA54 (Post 1147135)
I have to admit that you've convinced me
ms2 is now my next step
only... the pnp for 98-00 BP seems to have different connector... I think the problem is that my car is eudm vs diyautotune's usdm
however, nothing earth-shattering.

MS3 from Reverant, since he's in Athens I think he can handle the difference between usdm and eudm.

DNA54 07-12-2014 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1147140)
sainless on mild has been done before. you dont have any cuts in the manifold flange though to let it move.

Didn't know that... too late!


Originally Posted by thenuge26 (Post 1147356)
MS3 from Reverant, since he's in Athens I think he can handle the difference between usdm and eudm.

I may have found someone in Italy..
Thanks!


Btw

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1405194063

fully satisfied :giggle:

turbofan 07-12-2014 03:51 PM

OK so I know you might have found someone in Italy but...

SERIOUSLY.

Get it from Reverant. Though I don't have first hand experience with him, I've read post after post of people being extremely satisfied with his product and his support.

DNA54 07-15-2014 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by turbofan (Post 1147632)
OK so I know you might have found someone in Italy but...

SERIOUSLY.

Get it from Reverant. Though I don't have first hand experience with him, I've read post after post of people being extremely satisfied with his product and his support.

the fact is... I wanna build it myself!
the diypnp from autotune is only for usdm
so
I was thinking:
-buy ms2 kit from autotune, upgrade it for the miata NB and eudm connector from Italy and create my version of ms2
-buy a diy kit for eudm from reverant (dunno if he sell kits)

I have to wait until I have 30 messages to send PM, right?

Leafy 07-15-2014 11:49 AM

HOLY FUCKING SHIT BALLS ON A TITTY SPARKLER. Reverant makes his own professional plug and play megasquirts that are not at all related to DIY autotune and he lives in fucking greece so hopefully he knows how to build one for an EUDM wired car considering he only makes them for miatas and lives in fucking greece and drives a miata with one of his ecus in it.

sixshooter 07-15-2014 12:07 PM

Seriously, Reverent.

concealer404 07-15-2014 12:09 PM

Have you considered a Reverant ECU?

DNA54 07-15-2014 01:44 PM

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DNA54 07-15-2014 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1148261)
HOLY FUCKING SHIT BALLS ON A TITTY SPARKLER. Reverant makes his own professional plug and play megasquirts that are not at all related to DIY autotune and he lives in fucking greece so hopefully he knows how to build one for an EUDM wired car considering he only makes them for miatas and lives in fucking greece and drives a miata with one of his ecus in it.

:rofl:

something makes me think that ALL you want me to buy a pnp ms...

:giggle:

shuiend 07-15-2014 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by DNA54 (Post 1148309)
:rofl:

something makes me think that ALL you want me to buy a pnp ms...

:giggle:

We just want you to not have to deal with a lot of frustration of dealing with a company on a different continent. I know all the guys at DIY, been buying stuff from them for 7+ years, and I would still say to go with a MS from Reverant because he is relatively local to you, and probably knows the most about installing MS on eurospec miata's.

780racer 07-15-2014 03:55 PM

Get your MS3 basic from Rev.... Seriously. It comes with base maps, and a guy that seriously is Duke Nukem in real life.

mlev 07-15-2014 07:19 PM

You may not know this, but there's a guy on here named Reverant who makes Megasquirts for the Miata. You should consider getting your MS from Reverant.

----

Ok, seriously though, i started with an MS2E I got on here used for $500 from reverant, and I was so amazingly impressed with the ease of installation and the support he gave me (even though I hadn't given him a penny) that I sold it and bought a brand new MS3 Basic from him simply to support him and his business.

He sent me an email asking me about a dozen questions on what EXACTLY my setup was, and when I got my MS I plugged it and fired up my car.

DNA54 07-23-2014 01:00 PM

my next step MUST be rev ms2 pnp
but now I can't afford that cost because I've just buy rx8 injectors, a present for my mother, I've broken the pcv, an old friend came in from out of town! someone stole my car! there was an earthquake! a terrible flood! locusts! IT WASN'T MY FAULT, I SWEAR TO GOD!!!

DNA54 07-23-2014 01:07 PM

srsly, I have to wait to have enough cash...

This Sunday I stop the car for some works to do, including rebuild the alternator (baaad bearings), change the injectors, new fuel pump and fuel filter, tb cleaning, pcv change (was'nt a joke) and other easy stuff

prepare yourself for a lot of photos...

DNA54 08-03-2014 05:12 PM

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Too low :facepalm:

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-3° cambaaa :D

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my "workstation"

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quick check

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all dry, great!

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little leak in the turbine outlet flange, needs to be shaved

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have to weld the central brace direct to the exhaust :noob:

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exhaust line

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alternator disassembly

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new bearings and brushes and back in!


finished the ducting

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rx8 injectors 420cc
flow bench tested
differential oem regulator: 3.2 bar (verified)
800 rpm at 80% duty ==> 360cc
4000 rpm at 80% duty ==> 330cc
100% duty ==> 480cc (!)

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yellowwwwww

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TB before:

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after:

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now the injectors runs maximum at 39% at maximum boost (7 psi)
waiting for sequential bov to raise pressure to 10 psi :yippee:

tomorrow I would make an o2 clamp

stay tuned


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