hard-mounting to the transmission is also not a good idea.

 

 

lol.

Two of my exhaust hangars broke which inevitably lead to my manifold stud failures. Tack welding hangars is FTL.

 

What a dumb place to cut corners.

lol

 

Maybe it's not such a bad place to get cheap given none of them have cracked.

I'd also point out that FM's current DP's don't have flex sections like they used to. Do they have a reputation for breaking?

 

I'd like to point out FM uses a 100lb cast dp elbow.

"The pipes are cut and bent on a massive CNC (computer numerical control) pipe bender for consistency and accuracy. Due to the accuracy of the process, we were able to remove a heavy, expensive flex joint that was also a potential failure point."

Ironic isn't it. "We saved 3lbs on your downpipe by adding a 20lb elbow."

 

I have one.. the cast piece isn't light but I'd put money on there being less than 6-7lbs of difference.

What I asked wasn't whether it's heavier but whether the current FM downpipe tends to break. If your only answer is useless sarcasm why bother.

 

butt hurt much....^^

 

Sandy vagina fail.

 

lol

Guess I have to spell it out for you. It can't break because they use a heavy wall, cast iron piece. FM has no place in this conversation because no one else uses a cast elbow. Just because they don't use one, doesn't mean one is not needed.

Tim on the other hand makes a fabricated piece, so if he doesn't use a flex, maybe one isn't needed. Either way, I'll take my cheap insurance.

 

My fabricated Greddy replacement DP didn't have a flex, and never had a problem with it (neither did the original DP either). My BEGI does have a flex and I wish it didn't. The flex is significantly larger than the 2.5" pipe leaving very little clearance around it, so getting the DP in a place where the flex doesn't rub is difficult.

 

honda civic doesn't have a flex...

 

Shakes? More like you probably have bad motor mounts.

 

For the record, I haven't had a flex pipe on any of the 3 turbo setups I have used and had no issues with cracking. But I also never attached it at the transmission and had good motor mounts.

 

Common sense....

 

Every other car I've owned, civic included, had some form of flex joint from the factory between the manifold and exhaust. Most OEMs use a donut and spring bolts.

I think Full-Tilt meant vibrating, not shaking. Not sure stiffer mounts would help there.

 

duh youre right. and dammit when i swapped midpipes i forgot the donuts.

 

Why do you need clearance at that location? I have a begi downpipe as well with a flex pipe and has had 0 problems with clearance around the flex pipe.

 

NBNA ? BEGI fit is inconsistent as hell?

 

op sorry didnt see that, nvm then