Hey, Chinacharger pros - Miata Turbo Forum - Boost cars, acquire cats.

Welcome to Miataturbo.net   Members
 


DIY Turbo Discussion greddy on a 1.8? homebrew kit?

Reply
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 12-06-2010, 11:36 PM   #1
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
blaen99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 4,112
Total Cats: 27
Default Hey, Chinacharger pros

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HONDA...item4ced1ea817

Tell me what's wrong with this T3? The price scares me. The specs are what I am looking for for my Turbo miata project (build thread incoming - some day) but what does one look for in a chinacharger anyways? Any sellers to look for in particular? A $90 turbo just seems...way too good to be true, even for what the Chinacharger fans have said on here.
blaen99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2010, 12:44 AM   #2
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Victoria, BC
Posts: 2,322
Total Cats: 12
Default

Looks fine although a little bit small. Not much to look for in a chinacharger. If it doesn't work or breaks after 1000kms, buy another one.
dustinb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2010, 12:49 AM   #3
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
blaen99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 4,112
Total Cats: 27
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dustinb View Post
Looks fine although a little bit small. Not much to look for in a chinacharger. If it doesn't work or breaks after 1000kms, buy another one.
A little bit small is what I'm tending towards. I'm looking for a 2554-equivalent in a T3 sizing. Those specs were, based on my research, as close as I can get with a T3.
blaen99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2010, 01:17 AM   #4
NB/VVT Connoisseur
iTrader: (23)
 
viperormiata's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Key West
Posts: 6,072
Total Cats: 253
Default

viperormiata is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2010, 01:23 AM   #5
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
blaen99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 4,112
Total Cats: 27
Default

Thanks, but that's the thread that convinced me to go smaller in size and go with a chinacharger .

Was looking for more of an indication of quality, but at $90, whatever.
blaen99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2010, 01:38 AM   #6
NB/VVT Connoisseur
iTrader: (23)
 
viperormiata's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Key West
Posts: 6,072
Total Cats: 253
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by blaen99 View Post
Thanks, but that's the thread that convinced me to go smaller in size and go with a chinacharger .

Was looking for more of an indication of quality, but at $90, whatever.
Holy crap, you actually did your homework and made a intro thread! This is a rare sight.

Anyway, we have a member on here running that same turbo. He has reported no problems to far. Just do some more specific searches with user names and trim sizes of the turbo, you should get a few hits. Did you decide to do the 1.8 swap, keep the 1.6 or go Rotard?
viperormiata is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2010, 01:40 AM   #7
Slowest Progress Ever
iTrader: (26)
 
thirdgen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: The coal ridden hills of Pennsylvania
Posts: 5,808
Total Cats: 183
Default

A genuine Garrett SR-20 turbo is very very close to a 2554, and you could probably pick one of those up for maybe $90? Is there any special reason that you want to use a T3?
thirdgen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2010, 01:46 AM   #8
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Victoria, BC
Posts: 2,322
Total Cats: 12
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thirdgen View Post
A genuine Garrett SR-20 turbo is very very close to a 2554, and you could probably pick one of those up for maybe $90? Is there any special reason that you want to use a T3?
Probably because it is new and for future upgrades
dustinb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2010, 01:48 AM   #9
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
blaen99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 4,112
Total Cats: 27
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by viperormiata View Post
Holy crap, you actually did your homework and made a intro thread! This is a rare sight.

Anyway, we have a member on here running that same turbo. He has reported no problems to far. Just do some more specific searches with user names and trim sizes of the turbo, you should get a few hits. Did you decide to do the 1.8 swap, keep the 1.6 or go Rotard?
I'm pretty certain there's no way I'll stay with a 1.6. I can install a good low mileage 1.8 with everything for less than a good low mileage 1.6 will cost me - and the current 1.6 my Miata has is getting tired, or at least is from a rotary perspective. White smoke is -extremely- bad on rotaries, I don't know about piston. I need to do a compression test and whatnot, but any white smoke on a rotary is an extremely bad sign. While the smoke only comes on during startup, and could be nothing more then condensation due to it being winter, my rotary experience demands I have backup plans available pronto.

As I noted in my Intro thread, you miata guys have stuff amazingly cheap. I'm used to dropping more on a good engine core than you guys spend on a full turbo setup. I'd like to go rotard simply for the ease of use, as I can tune one in my sleep with a MS, but the price is hard to justify. Really hard to justify. You guys have no idea how good you have it with prices.

Quote:
Originally Posted by thirdgen View Post
A genuine Garrett SR-20 turbo is very very close to a 2554, and you could probably pick one of those up for maybe $90? Is there any special reason that you want to use a T3?
Existing rotary hardware that is T3.

(Edit) For clarification, all the turbo hardware I have is T3. I suppose I'm not necessarily opposed to going with something else, it's just that all my current hardware is T3 (With v-bands at that...). Hence T3 was my initial go-to.

Last edited by blaen99; 12-07-2010 at 02:02 AM.
blaen99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2010, 02:24 AM   #10
Junior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: N/A
Posts: 360
Total Cats: 0
Default

You'll probably be happier with a .48 a/r turbine.
mikeflys1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2010, 02:27 AM   #11
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
blaen99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 4,112
Total Cats: 27
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeflys1 View Post
You'll probably be happier with a .48 a/r turbine.
Thank you.
blaen99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2010, 04:53 AM   #12
Junior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
rbluemx6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 179
Total Cats: 0
Default

If the specs are right in the description, then it is close to a 60trim compressor wheel in a wannabe t04e housing, and stg 3 turbine wheel in a .63 a/r t3 housing.

However, it looks like one I bought a few years ago(similar m12 marking) and the compressor wheel turns out to be a 45 trim(50mm In, 76mm Ex) with the same turbine measurements stated above.

If you want something similar to a 2554 in a t3, there are better options out there. Like this:

http://www.speedyracer.com/servlet/t...charger/Detail

This is the turbo in Brain's thread posted above.
rbluemx6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2010, 09:40 AM   #13
Boost Czar
iTrader: (61)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 72,889
Total Cats: 1,792
Default

Here's a life lessen for you guys:


a 71mm compressor wheel DOES NOT = A T3 TURBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


wanna know the giveaway?!



WHERE IT ******* SAYS T4.
Braineack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2010, 01:39 PM   #14
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
blaen99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 4,112
Total Cats: 27
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rbluemx6 View Post
If the specs are right in the description, then it is close to a 60trim compressor wheel in a wannabe t04e housing, and stg 3 turbine wheel in a .63 a/r t3 housing.

However, it looks like one I bought a few years ago(similar m12 marking) and the compressor wheel turns out to be a 45 trim(50mm In, 76mm Ex) with the same turbine measurements stated above.

If you want something similar to a 2554 in a t3, there are better options out there. Like this:

http://www.speedyracer.com/servlet/t...charger/Detail

This is the turbo in Brain's thread posted above.
Whipping out the credit card and buying that right now, while at work even.

Thank you very much, it even comes with v-bands instead of having to screw with getting them installed which is a big +!
blaen99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2010, 01:44 PM   #15
Elite Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Seattle, Wa
Posts: 1,780
Total Cats: 30
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Braineack View Post
Here's a life lessen for you guys:


a 71mm compressor wheel DOES NOT = A T3 TURBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


wanna know the giveaway?!



WHERE IT ******* SAYS T4.
Thank you. I was about to have a rage aneurysm over dustinb calling it ' a bit small'.

OP: On a 1.6, this is quite a large turbo. As someone else has posted, if this is a street car and you use a 1.6l, use a .48ar turbine housing.
Jeff_Ciesielski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2010, 01:46 PM   #16
Boost Czar
iTrader: (61)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 72,889
Total Cats: 1,792
Default

a T04e 50 trim wheel is good for 480HP. yeah, a bit small. Funny, cause it's also sized larger than his "Gt28" in his sig...which is sized like a GT2871 in a .86 A/R housing...similar to the size Savington is using.
Braineack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2010, 02:09 PM   #17
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
blaen99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 4,112
Total Cats: 27
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Braineack View Post
a T04e 50 trim wheel is good for 480HP. yeah, a bit small. Funny, cause it's also sized larger than his "Gt28" in his sig...which is sized like a GT2871 in a .86 A/R housing...similar to the size Savington is using.
Well, for $90, I couldn't complain .

Brain, did you balance your chinacharger at a shop when you got it? Or did you just throw it in?
blaen99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2010, 02:18 PM   #18
Boost Czar
iTrader: (61)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 72,889
Total Cats: 1,792
Default

i had the wastegate ported, then threw it on.
Braineack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2010, 02:22 PM   #19
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
blaen99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 4,112
Total Cats: 27
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Braineack View Post
i had the wastegate ported, then threw it on.
And you've had no problems with it? Wow. Chinacharger's quality is apparently a lot better than I want to give it credit for.
blaen99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2010, 02:25 PM   #20
Boost Czar
iTrader: (61)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 72,889
Total Cats: 1,792
Default

zero issues. lots of torque.
Braineack is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Project Gemini - Turbo Civic on the Cheap Full_Tilt_Boogie Build Threads 58 12-13-2017 10:04 PM
Noob to Miataturbo from MA JxPhan Meet and Greet 3 10-02-2015 03:17 AM
Bad head gasket or ? shooterschmidty Engine Performance 8 09-30-2015 11:28 PM
VR6 to Miata Swap ScrapinMX5 Meet and Greet 8 09-28-2015 02:04 PM
First Miata Rhidell Meet and Greet 1 09-27-2015 10:42 AM


Tags
joe perez

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:14 PM.