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Old May 15, 2018 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by acedeuce802
After all this discussion, he still went with Fab9.
Yeah, I just saw the inside of the new Fab9. If I need to get another down the road, I can always buy another one...
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that's the fab9?

they definitely improved it if it is
Old May 15, 2018 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 18psi
that's the fab9?

they definitely improved it if it is
yeah thats the 350hp Fab9
Old May 15, 2018 | 07:25 PM
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Mine looks like that too and I bought mine used off chilicharger and he bought it from Bryan before Fab9 was a thing.

Edit: I was wrong. Found an old picture I took of my IC. Guess they did up their game!


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You're implying that they're all like that. They're not
https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo...rcooler-83205/

I've looked into many of them in person. None had staggered fins like above (which is much better). I guess they finally updated them. I also bought many before fab9 was a thing.
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Yeah, I updated my post. I found an old picture I took. Good on them for catching up! Pity TSE didn't have one of these suckers when I was looking.

This is the post you're referring to, right Vlad?

https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo...5/#post1210336
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by up game, you mean buy a better chinacooler?
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by up game, you mean buy a better chinacooler?
It appears so!
Old May 15, 2018 | 07:42 PM
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Sheesh - all the mod love.

They updated our stage 2 intercooler cores over a year ago. We didn’t advertise any improvements.

As of a couple months ago the smaller core has been improved. All units moving forward are the improved design, thats certain.
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I remember the day deezums found that $50 cooler on ebay that somehow magically had proper fin density and placement, I hit "buy it now" so fast I felt like one of the n00bs
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Originally Posted by FAB
Sheesh - all the mod love.

They updated our stage 2 intercooler cores over a year ago. We didn’t advertise any improvements.

As of a couple months ago the smaller core has been improved. All units moving forward are the improved design, thats certain.
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Originally Posted by FAB
Sheesh - all the mod love.

They updated our stage 2 intercooler cores over a year ago. We didn’t advertise any improvements.

As of a couple months ago the smaller core has been improved. All units moving forward are the improved design, thats certain.
You posted about the stage 2 updates in 2015 over 3 years ago. Glad they finally updated the stage 1 as well and that 503 got one of the newer ones!

https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo...5/#post1210348

Have any of your test cars or users swapped over to the new stage 1 from the old one? Curious what difference it made for IATs!
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So, thinking I was satisfied with the better of the 2 CXRay I/Cs, such as what I had, I bought another one after my wreck. P/N IC0049.

Now the conversation about Vibrants and Precisions is making me second guess.

For the track, I only plan to run about 175 WHP, and I will only be seeing about 10* rise over ambient. Not sure how much pressure drop, however. And for street use, I only get about 20* rise, as not enough time to heat soak.

Big question is if I indeed take car to drag strip as planned, that will be a long enough pull at 220WHP, or so, to let MAT go high. I could just throw in a couple of gallons of 110 or 120 Octane race gas, to keep safe, but will still loose some power, I would expect. TBH, I think the pressure drop will be more of an issue than MAT.

I have attached a log that represents the old and new intercooler on a pull.

Do you think I should ditch this thing and go for a Vibrant (Fab9) or Precision?

My set-up will never make more than 250WHP.

Log with 2-3 flat-shift (same as loaded log):

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Old May 15, 2018 | 09:26 PM
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Fully heat soaked, I never want to see more than a 30-35*F delta between ambient and IATs post-intercooler.
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Originally Posted by Savington
Fully heat soaked, I never want to see more than a 30-35*F delta between ambient and IATs post-intercooler.
That’s what I’m gathering. I may be heat soaked, in that if I held the power the MAT might get to that. However, in this log, MAT goes from 79 ambient to 99, or only 20 degrees F. Hence the question.
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Originally Posted by DNMakinson
That’s what I’m gathering. I may be heat soaked, in that if I held the power the MAT might get to that. However, in this log, MAT goes from 79 ambient to 99, or only 20 degrees F. Hence the question.

79 on that log is not going to be ambient. That's referring to the actual air temperature outside of the car not MAT during low load.
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I understand. However, I have found them to be equivalent within a very small margin. Have you found it otherwise?
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Originally Posted by 503


I just got the Vibrant 12800 on Amazon for $163 and it also looks like the picture above. I will provide further pictures when I get a chance to install it.
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Installing my intercooler as I'm typing this, actually... Good density and placement and it feels pretty solid



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