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Savington 08-17-2009 01:37 AM

ITT we discuss why my brand new 2871R seized
 
:crx:

20ish autocross runs, about 15 laps at Calspeed (one full session, 3 partial sessions). It started making a little bit of noise for about a lap, and then it stopped making boost completely. I thought I had popped a pipe, but then I heard it squeak a couple of times.

Back to Garrett tomorrow. I have an event in 2 weeks. :vash:

Laur3ns 08-17-2009 01:42 AM

WTF?! That stinks.
First thing that comes to minder is the funky oil drain, but other than that...?

18psi 08-17-2009 01:43 AM

Holy shit man:eek5:


Turbo miata's everywhere tremble at the mere mention of the name "Savington":giggle:

Savington 08-17-2009 01:47 AM


Originally Posted by Spookyfish (Post 443248)
WTF?! That stinks.
First thing that comes to minder is the funky oil drain, but other than that...?

If anything, that would cause an oil seal to go. Turbo is dry on the compressor side. Haven't seen the turbine side yet (I am going to hurl if the housing is fucked up).

Laur3ns 08-17-2009 02:58 AM

I know, that's why I doubt it's that. Very curious: get that turbo off, it's only three bolts this time :) Ok, and some oil/water lines.

Savington 08-17-2009 03:17 AM

Bah. Don't know whether I didn't get them tight enough when I clocked it or whether they backed out on their own, but 5 of the 6 bolts that hold the turbine housing to the CHRA backed out. Turbine cocked to one side, made noise for a while, then finally seized the shaft. The turbo spins free, just like it should, but the housing and turbine wheel are done.

May do Resbond, may do safety wire. :vash:

Laur3ns 08-17-2009 03:24 AM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 443272)
Bah. Don't know whether I didn't get them tight enough when I clocked it or whether they backed out on their own, but 5 of the 6 bolts that hold the turbine housing to the CHRA backed out.

Wow, mine were tight as hell to get off. Maybe you put it on hand tight and forgot about them later on? I doubt that that is going to be our next failure point.

Savington 08-17-2009 03:25 AM

Nope, I remember cranking down all 12 at the same time. I clocked the CHRA to fit the drain line, snugged a couple, pulled it back out and cranked them all. :(

Laur3ns 08-17-2009 03:33 AM

Fuck, better get a root cause analysis on this.

Braineack 08-17-2009 08:27 AM

Didn't JayL's brand new Garrett destroy itself as well?

kotomile 08-17-2009 08:30 AM

Sucks Sav, and just when we thought you were done having to mess around with the turbo!

Laur3ns 08-17-2009 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 443291)
Didn't JayL's brand new Garrett destroy itself as well?

He used teflon where he shouldn't have?

Braineack 08-17-2009 08:46 AM

i still don't see how that made a compressor nut pop off....

gospeed81 08-17-2009 08:56 AM

Thought that was ZXTex...

hustler 08-17-2009 08:59 AM

that's gay as fuck. Time for me to bust out the safety wire on mine.

thymer 08-17-2009 09:13 AM

They aren't supposed to be horribly tight, 30ftLb's IIRC with blue loctite optional.

hustler 08-17-2009 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by thymer (Post 443305)
They aren't supposed to be horribly tight, 30ftLb's IIRC with blue loctite optional.

Is this a poor attempt at humor? Please clarify so I can belittle you on the internet. I'd hate to mistakenly harass anyone.

thymer 08-17-2009 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 443312)
Is this a poor attempt at humor? Please clarify so I can belittle you on the internet. I'd hate to mistakenly harass anyone.

When I was clocking my 3071 I couldn't find a torque spec so I email Garrett tech support. I was surprised at the low value but maybe it's just for the compressor side as it is aluminum. I can't find the email now so maybe my memory is failing but it was low.

hustler 08-17-2009 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by thymer (Post 443314)
When I was clocking my 3071 I couldn't find a torque spec so I email Garrett tech support. I was surprised at the low value but maybe it's just for the compressor side as it is aluminum. I can't find the email now so maybe my memory is failing but it was low.

so...what about the blue loctite? Does that work?

btw, 30lb/t is a shit-ton for that little bolt.

1stproject 08-17-2009 10:25 AM

That really sucks! Sorry to hear....


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