Notices
DIY Turbo Discussion greddy on a 1.8? homebrew kit?

ITT we discuss why my brand new 2871R seized

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 17, 2009 | 10:27 AM
  #21  
thymer's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 822
Total Cats: -2
From: VA
Default

Originally Posted by hustler
so...what about the blue loctite? Does that work?

btw, 30lb/t is a ****-ton for that little bolt.
The guy said it was optional but a good idea....
Old Aug 17, 2009 | 10:31 AM
  #22  
hustler's Avatar
Tour de Franzia
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 29,085
Total Cats: 375
From: Republic of Dallas
Default

Originally Posted by thymer
The guy said it was optional but a good idea....
So you're telling me that the engineer from Garrett recommended using a 300*f thread-locker on this:


Please tell me this isn't true.
Old Aug 17, 2009 | 10:38 AM
  #23  
thymer's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 822
Total Cats: -2
From: VA
Default

Originally Posted by hustler
So you're telling me that the engineer from Garrett recommended using a 300*f thread-locker on this:


Please tell me this isn't true.
As i mentioned earlier, I had asked for the compressor side torque value.
Old Aug 17, 2009 | 10:40 AM
  #24  
Laur3ns's Avatar
Elite Member
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,054
Total Cats: 14
From: Enschede, NL
Default

Oh and Sav - you know the rules: pics or this never happened.
Old Aug 17, 2009 | 10:47 AM
  #25  
neogenesis2004's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,413
Total Cats: 20
Default

I've never heard of those bolts backing out on any turbo before.

I always tighten those bolts as much as I humanly can with a wrench. Basically to the point where the bolt head would begin to round off. Probably like 50-60ft lb or more.
Old Aug 17, 2009 | 11:00 AM
  #26  
Laur3ns's Avatar
Elite Member
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,054
Total Cats: 14
From: Enschede, NL
Default

Originally Posted by neogenesis2004
I've never heard of those bolts backing out on any turbo before.

I always tighten those bolts as much as I humanly can with a wrench. Basically to the point where the bolt head would begin to round off. Probably like 50-60ft lb or more.
+1 although a bit less. Mine were tight as hell when they came out so they went in tight as hell too.
Old Aug 17, 2009 | 11:06 AM
  #27  
miatamike203's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,102
Total Cats: 3
From: MONROE CT
Default

Im not sure on the Gerrett turbos but when I did a dsm turbo for my miata. I used oil because the threads did not go all the way through so it was like hydro locking the bolts in.
Old Aug 17, 2009 | 11:16 AM
  #28  
hustler's Avatar
Tour de Franzia
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 29,085
Total Cats: 375
From: Republic of Dallas
Default

Originally Posted by miatamike203
Im not sure on the Gerrett turbos but when I did a dsm turbo for my miata. I used oil because the threads did not go all the way through so it was like hydro locking the bolts in.
what?
Old Aug 17, 2009 | 11:38 AM
  #29  
Savington's Avatar
Thread Starter
Former Vendor
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,442
Total Cats: 2,106
From: Sunnyvale, CA
Default

Originally Posted by miatamike203
Im not sure on the Gerrett turbos but when I did a dsm turbo for my miata. I used oil because the threads did not go all the way through so it was like hydro locking the bolts in.
stop posting, please.
Old Aug 17, 2009 | 11:46 AM
  #30  
curly's Avatar
Cpt. Slow
iTrader: (25)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 15,197
Total Cats: 1,398
From: Oregon City, OR
Default

Believe he's saying the blind holes in his dsm turbo somehow were full of oil. Tightening against this oil (pressurizing it, not hydrolock) created a false sense of tightness. But I agree, stop posting for now.

Sav, sounds like you need to v-band the v-band setup. Id make fun of you for spending all this money for nothing, but A: this really sucks and I'm sorry for you, and B: my miata is engineless currently so I have no room to talk.
Old Aug 17, 2009 | 11:58 AM
  #31  
miatamike203's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,102
Total Cats: 3
From: MONROE CT
Default

Originally Posted by Savington
stop posting, please.
Okay I will to make the elders happy.
Old Aug 17, 2009 | 12:13 PM
  #32  
ScottFW's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,361
Total Cats: 17
From: Falls Church, VA
Default

Dang, that really sucks. I've been keeping an eye on the nuts/studs/v-band threads to see how this turns out. Look on the bright side... at least the turbine housing stayed attached to the manifold. Right?
Old Aug 17, 2009 | 12:19 PM
  #33  
spoolin2bars's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 1,416
Total Cats: 10
From: south texas
Default

is there anyway the housing could have cocked to one side a tiny bit when you torqued them down. since you took the turbo off to tighten it could have happened then. if it was, that would mean that the bolts were tight (torque wise) until later when the housing or center section moved (flattened out) then the bolts would be loose, then the housing would move again this time enough to make contact. i know it's far fetched but can't imagine another way for that to happen if you tightened them all down. did you use a star pattern when tightening the bolts down? i've seen people zap lugs on with an impact where the wheel wasn't flat against the hub. they even used a torque wrench, only to have the wheel come off later after the wheel seated correctly allowing the bolts to come loose.

sorry to hear about that man. i hate when little **** like that ***** up expensive parts. good luck.
Old Aug 17, 2009 | 12:23 PM
  #34  
y8s's Avatar
y8s
DEI liberal femininity
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 19,338
Total Cats: 574
From: Fake Virginia
Default

it's a sign to use the .64.

seriously though, that's not a frequent occurence. does your **** generate some bolt-loosening harmonics? got dam.
Old Aug 17, 2009 | 12:24 PM
  #35  
hustler's Avatar
Tour de Franzia
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 29,085
Total Cats: 375
From: Republic of Dallas
Default

I'm going to safety wire mine. I'm really sorry to hear about this Savington.

However, isn't it great to pull on basically any car on the track? Its always a trip to pull GT3's and Vettes on the straights for a change.
Old Aug 17, 2009 | 01:02 PM
  #36  
Savington's Avatar
Thread Starter
Former Vendor
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,442
Total Cats: 2,106
From: Sunnyvale, CA
Default

It was nice being able to run down 996 Turbos and ****. 280whp is retarded power in this car. 3rd gear is nearly unuseable.
Old Aug 17, 2009 | 01:08 PM
  #37  
AbeFM's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,047
Total Cats: 13
From: San Diego, CA
Default

I've certainly seen that, where you tighten not quite on the bottom, very easy to get it cocked.I've come across the fluid filled holes thing before, too, often just wiggling the bolt lets it breath.

Sorry to hear about it. I guess still no ideas? None of the bolts broke, right?


On the subject of virbrations, everything with less than two bolts holding itself to my intake manifold breaks eventually. Doesn't matter what it's made out of.
Old Aug 17, 2009 | 01:14 PM
  #38  
neocataboi's Avatar
Newb
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 29
Total Cats: -2
From: Fontana CA
Default

dude thats so lame, your car was running so well yesterday too. i was watching you on the straights and it was so cool seeing you pull on the 996.

BTW, did you break 50?
Old Aug 17, 2009 | 01:32 PM
  #39  
bellwilliam's Avatar
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 384
Total Cats: 12
Default

He was ~12 sec under SM record.

would of been another 2-3 sec faster if he didn't ran out of gear down the front straight

he needs to slow down, and won't have any issues.
Old Aug 17, 2009 | 02:10 PM
  #40  
hustler's Avatar
Tour de Franzia
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 29,085
Total Cats: 375
From: Republic of Dallas
Default

they probably backed out because you're a virgin.



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:23 AM.