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Old 07-05-2016, 03:28 PM   #1
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Hello everyone, im currently building a turbo 1.6 miata. And before you guys flame me for boosting a 1.6 instead of doing a 1.8, i like the 1.6 and always wanted to do a 1.6. that being said, i have access to a mspnp for pretty cheap, is it worth just going gen 2 over 1? Oviously i want to save money, but if gen 2 is drastically better, ill spend the extra money. i have a goal of about 230whp, (begi mani, 2560r, rx7 inj, torsen diff, etc..) all i need at this point is an ecu. So ms1pnp for the cheap(from a freind), or new ms2pnp (not really into the diy,im going the pnp route).Like i said again, please dont flame me, just let me know your opinions, thanks guys
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super old inferior product?
or much newer superior product?

hmmm, tough choice.
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Ms3 or bust.
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I hear carburators are real cheap
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super old inferior product?
or much newer superior product?

hmmm, tough choice.
Yeah i know lol, but basically free ms1, is it really that bad In all seriousness?
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MS1 is fine for simple applications like a track car. But if you want a streetable DD with comforts like AC, you need the newer technology.

Now, if you're a computer science major and want to write your own software . . . but I must warn you, MS1 is coded in assembly language.
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MS1 is fine for simple applications like a track car. But if you want a streetable DD with comforts like AC, you need the newer technology.

Now, if you're a computer science major and want to write your own software . . . but I must warn you, MS1 is coded in assembly language.
thank you, car will be DD, so that helps alot
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And before you guys flame me for boosting a 1.6 instead of doing a 1.8, i like the 1.6 and always wanted to do a 1.6
Lots of the flaming arises over people arguing for some advantage or preference for a 1.6, as in the infamous m.net "free revving" hype. It's cool to use what you have, but more engine is more better. It's really important to keep perspective and realize that a good manifold costs a significant fraction of what a used BP does.
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Newer equals better. Dont waste your time with the old stuff, although it might be fine for your little 1.6.
I would go with the ms2🤓
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Lots of the flaming arises over people arguing for some advantage or preference for a 1.6, as in the infamous m.net "free revving" hype. It's cool to use what you have, but more engine is more better. It's really important to keep perspective and realize that a good manifold costs a significant fraction of what a used BP does.
Lots of arguing on both sides, obviously the 1.8 is better, never will o ever say the 1.6 is better or superior to the 1.8 because its not. I'm turboing 1.6 because I want to, not because I can't or don't want a 1.8, I have access to a 1.8 for literally nothing lol
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Lots of arguing on both sides, obviously the 1.8 is better, never will o ever say the 1.6 is better or superior to the 1.8 because its not. I'm turboing 1.6 because I want to, not because I can't or don't want a 1.8, I have access to a 1.8 for literally nothing lol
A free 1.8, yet you choose to build a 1.6, before any parts have even been purchased. You think with inferior brain function, so you might as well use an ms1.
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A free 1.8, yet you choose to build a 1.6, before any parts have even been purchased. You think with inferior brain function, so you might as well use an ms1.
Ms2 already ordered, have all my parts already as well. Will and up building the 1.8 and take my time. Thanks for the input
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Cool. Have fun. It will still be fun to drive.

Let's see the parts!
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