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Old 11-24-2007, 01:16 AM   #1
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Hey Folks,

Just joined, and though I would post up an introduction.

We've been supplying the Honda DIY Turbocharging community for about five years now, and are beginning to look at other vehicles that we can expand our product line with. Having been a ragtop guy for some years, and also dabbling in a little Solo2, I thought we might take a look at the Miata world.

Thanks to magnamx-5 for directing me to the DIY FAQ, I am getting up to speed on the kinds of obstacles and solutions you folks are dealing with. I hope that we can create/find/supply some products that you guys need, as that would really help me justify purchasing an "R&D" Miata for the company.

BTW we are the company that manufacturers the block fitting you guys have pictured in the oil supply section of the DIY FAQ, here -

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This is a fitting we made for the Honda guys who wanted to tee from the oil sender port on the block. We made the fitting with the proper male 1/8BSPT threads on one end to engage the engine block oil port correctly, and the same female threads on the opposite end to provide a place to re-install the factory sensor. Two side ports are 1/8NPT, so that fittings commonly available in the US can be used to plumb the oil feed line to the turbo. Glad to see this fitting works for the Mazda guys as well.

Anyway, please bear with me as I come up to speed on Miata Turbocharging. I'll try not to ask too many noob questions.

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Awesome! More products directed toward miata turbochargeing is always a good thing. Are there certen products you guys specalize in? Like fittings, etc. Where are you guys located?
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Whats up Craig. I've bought a bunch of kits from you over the past few years. Always excellent. Running a kit of my Miata right now. Also, Hotrex has Herpes.

Edit: Miata's need some TT Rods.
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Old 11-24-2007, 12:59 PM   #4
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Awesome! More products directed toward miata turbochargeing is always a good thing. Are there certen products you guys specalize in? Like fittings, etc. Where are you guys located?
Although we carry everything from Garrett Turbos, to SRP Pistons, our specialty has always been creating the flanges and fittings that the average guy needs to get a turb installed on his car. These were initially geared towards Honda guys, but a lot of the products will work for the Miata guys as well.

Some of our specialty products include flanges for turbo oil drains. These adapt the drain flange to NPT threads, or to AN fittings. They make it easier to plumb the oil drain, by converting the proprietary connection to a more commonly used style.

Othe items include vacuum manifolds, turbo oil supply fittings, and even complete oil line kits. We'll be developing both version of oil line kits for the Miatas here shortly.

Thanks for the warm welcome!

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Old 11-24-2007, 04:00 PM   #5
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A complete oil line kit would be fantastic if you could price it right. That was one of the larger headaches of assembling my setup.
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A complete oil line kit would be fantastic if you could price it right. That was one of the larger headaches of assembling my setup.
We've done it for three different types of turbos on Honda engines. Since the oil feed is the same for some of the Miatas, it will easily translate. Shouldn't be too hard to put together a kit for the OEM style feed location as well.

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I could use a vacuum manifold..

:edit: Saw it on your site, PM sent with some questions.
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Old 11-24-2007, 09:52 PM   #8
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A complete drainline solution for the Greddy kits would be cherry.
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Old 11-24-2007, 11:52 PM   #9
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damn and to think i was half way mean to you guys oh well yeah your stuff looks real good and i agree a universal line kit would be a good idea cause 90% of us have a distance of +-3-4 inches difference in where our turbo is and that is easily fixable by just shooting for the long end. I wonder if you guys are gonna maybe market a nice daul feed fuel rail? This still looks promising though and i am glad you read the FAQ so few do. but then agian it is abit more comprehensive than most of the faqs you see on other sites GL man.
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Cheap dual feed rail ftw. Preferably threaded so the user can choose his fitting type.
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Cheap dual feed rail ftw. Preferably threaded so the user can choose his fitting type.
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Old 11-25-2007, 03:02 AM   #12
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GReddy drain line +1
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Old 11-25-2007, 03:18 AM   #13
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We've done it for three different types of turbos on Honda engines. Since the oil feed is the same for some of the Miatas, it will easily translate. Shouldn't be too hard to put together a kit for the OEM style feed location as well.

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Cheap dual feed rail ftw. Preferably threaded so the user can choose his fitting type.
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Old 11-25-2007, 10:59 PM   #15
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Hey Guys, My post count is not yet 10, so I am answering your PMs here.

ApexOnYou, - The vacuum manifolds are now being made in anodized black, with gray engraving, perfect for keeping the engine bay quiet. We just haven't updated the pictures yet. The two inlets are 1/4NPT, while the five outlets are 1/8NPT. Fittings are not included at the current price, but will be available separately. For now, we can throw in a fittings kit for you. Just hit us up with an email once you order ([email protected]), and remind us that we need to throw in a free set of fittings with your order. I only ask that you take pics and post up your review of the product.

firedog25 - So for the Greddy Drain line kit, what are it's current short-commings? From reading the FAQ, it appears that a standard -10 based drain line kit would be easy enough to make. The Miata uses a cast aluminum pan, correct? Do all years use the cast aluminum, or are some stamped steel? We already have a pretty good solution for cast pans, with a bolt on -10AN Male flange for the pan, -10AN male drain flange for the turbo, and standard AN fittings and hose for in between. We'd just need to know the length of the drain line to supply in the kit. We'd be happy to put together a handful of prototyped kits for some folks to try out and report back on.

magnamx-5 - Thanks for the FAQ, finished the first read today, and then went back to review a couple of items. A great bit of writing there! You mentioned the length of drain line. Since we don't have a project car started yet , what would the range of lengths be for the drain line? We'll also need to know the shortest distance, to be sure that the AN fittings will have clearance. We'll look into the fuel rail (are there any companies currently makeing them?). Don't worry about being "half way mean"...I expect a little hazing as a newb.

neogenesis2004, cardriverx & sbrian2 - If you would send us some PMs with any current fuel rails out there, and what you don't like about them. If we can make a better product, we'll put some energy into developing them.

Thanks Guys!

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Flyin Miata is one of the only making fuel rails right now and what we dont like is the price!

http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php?...550%20%2090-93
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Fuel rails should be made of extruded aluminum rail stock, should be fed from each end and the NB models should have the quick snap type fitting on one end so i can pull my rail and just snap it on to my current metal fuel line versus messing with hoseclamps. Stainless braid line.
Cheap as possible. We all know the extruded aluminum can be had for less than $8 a foot and all you do is drill holes for the injectors, tap the ends for AN fittings and build lines to fit. I refuse to pay over $100 for something like that.
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Amen brother! My only problem with the current offering is also price.
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Yep. $219 for that is pretty steep. What about the rails available from **********? At $139, they are quite a bit cheaper than the FM version. They are certainly not as "pretty" as the FM rail, but does anyone have any experience with them?

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From who :P
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