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Gavin 07-30-2008 05:44 PM

We wanted to show you the way we decided to put our ""kit"" together. Thought thats what you guys are into.

So I am guessing (as I am left to guess) that your problem with our oil drain is that is has a 90 degree-ish bend in it? Unfortunately, it had to be this way because of the design of his manifold. However, I assure you that if you saw the tapered internal design of that fitting you would agree that it, too, is legit.

That sealant is "ultra copper." Which to my amazement is a direct replacement for an exhaust gasket in many situations! I didn't believe it at first either.

I'm here to exchange information, not 'dazzle' anybody.

Arkmage 07-30-2008 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by samnavy (Post 289949)
What is the huge nasty mess of wires on the passeger firewall?

Looks like a MS with a relay board stuck to it.

Zabac 07-30-2008 05:50 PM

Alright douchebag, you asked for it.
The comment you quoted of me was towards Sams pic, not anything you said. I still think you are an idiot and have no questions I would want answered by you. As far as the attitude goes, this forum was just fine before you got here and will remain as is even after you are gone, which is coming up very shortly I assure you. We do not like little prima donnas that bitch about every comment that they didn't like. Quite frankly, if you don't like it, fuck off!

The build looks halfway decent, but a few things you are claiming are just plain retarded. Who dumps into their engine bay??? I have yet to see that.

Nobody is saying it doesn't work, and noone is telling you what to do, you want to melt shit, go ahead...but I assume that you came to this place to get advice and ideas and feedback, that's what you have been getting. If you cannot take criticism, I advise you to go hide under a rock.

jayc72 07-30-2008 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by Gavin (Post 290111)
We wanted to show you the way we decided to put our ""kit"" together. Thought thats what you guys are into.

So I am guessing (as I am left to guess) that your problem with our oil drain is that is has a 90 degree-ish bend in it? Unfortunately, it had to be this way because of the design of his manifold. However, I assure you that if you saw the tapered internal design of that fitting you would agree that it, too, is legit.

That sealant is "ultra copper." Which to my amazement is a direct replacement for an exhaust gasket in many situations! I didn't believe it at first either.

I'm here to exchange information, not 'dazzle' anybody.

See you've got it all wrong. We are into giving people a hard time, it's an immature and childish sport but fun. Exchanging information, not so much. :)

My issue with the drain is how it is clocked. From the pictures it doesn't look like there is any reason you couldn't have had it clocked straight down.

I don't suspect that ultra copper will last, better to have good surfaces and no gasket to fail. But I guess with the open dump any exhaust leak at the DP will be a minor thing.

jayc72 07-30-2008 05:56 PM

Maybe you can be all tough guy once you turbo your car. Go sit in the corner with Hustler. Pray he doesn't touch you where you pee.


Originally Posted by Zabac (Post 290117)
Alright douchebag, you asked for it.
The comment you quoted of me was towards Sams pic, not anything you said. I still think you are an idiot and have no questions I would want answered by you. As far as the attitude goes, this forum was just fine before you got here and will remain as is even after you are gone, which is coming up very shortly I assure you. We do not like little prima donnas that bitch about every comment that they didn't like. Quite frankly, if you don't like it, fuck off!

The build looks halfway decent, but a few things you are claiming are just plain retarded. Who dumps into their engine bay??? I have yet to see that.

Nobody is saying it doesn't work, and noone is telling you what to do, you want to melt shit, go ahead...but I assume that you came to this place to get advice and ideas and feedback, that's what you have been getting. If you cannot take criticism, I advise you to go hide under a rock.


Gavin 07-30-2008 05:56 PM

Ya, rereading things, your probably right. I just wish actual information that I could work off of and respond too was more often included in such commentary, or that people would at least have read my responses to criticisms before putting them forth AGAIN. But I suppose thats the nature of the beast (internet forums).

Its very frustrating, as I'm sure you understand. I probably just have to get used to it all over again (haven't been on any forums in about a year and a half haha).

Zabac 07-30-2008 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by Gavin (Post 290111)
We wanted to show you the way we decided to put our ""kit"" together. Thought thats what you guys are into.

So I am guessing (as I am left to guess) that your problem with our oil drain is that is has a 90 degree-ish bend in it? Unfortunately, it had to be this way because of the design of his manifold. However, I assure you that if you saw the tapered internal design of that fitting you would agree that it, too, is legit.

That sealant is "ultra copper." Which to my amazement is a direct replacement for an exhaust gasket in many situations! I didn't believe it at first either.

I'm here to exchange information, not 'dazzle' anybody.

You sound like one of those typical little ------s that gets their babydick kicked in frequently. Noone is Dazzled, we have seen it all, and yes, we are smarter than you, just accept defeat and we may let you stay.
The manifold is nice, the turbo is nice, I am a believer of the ultra copper, I am all about cheap (look at my groupbuys). We are not the problem, you are! Quit your bitching or beware of the banstick.
Exchange information...that's what we do everyday. Today, we are trying to get some information to you but your skull is a bit too thick to accept it.

Gavin 07-30-2008 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by jayc72 (Post 290120)
My issue with the drain is how it is clocked. From the pictures it doesn't look like there is any reason you couldn't have had it clocked straight down.

Oooh ok. Now were getting somewhere ;)
I think its at about the same angle as the one in my ZX (OEM turbo) actually, but perhaps you have a point. Ill keep an eye on it. The center section was pretty well seized to the turbine housing though :bang:

Arkmage 07-30-2008 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by Cowpoke (Post 290030)
They've been working great as a temporary solution, I don't get why you guys expect everyone's cars to be perfect right off the bat. This car has been turbocharged for less than a week and I'm running off of a college student budget.

1) Congradulation on handling everyone's initial abuse well... you'll do ok around here.

2) Tell you buddy Gavin to chill out a bit, he is going to piss folks off.

3) Many of the comments are meant to be constructive. We don't know how much previous experience you have with building your own turbo system so we assume you know nothing. Don't take this stuff as insults or putting your car down. Most of us will not admit it, but our DIY kits were equally ghetto for at least some period of time (you should see my downpipe that originally came off a prelude).

4) The oil burning comment is relating to the angle of your chra. The oil drain is purely gravity fed. You never want your CHRA to exceed 5 degrees from vertical (per Garrett) or you can reduce the life of your seals and bearings and burn oil easier. It's a simple fix, just loosen your housings and rotate it so the drain is straight down. It will take you 20 mins.

Welcome aboard.

jayc72 07-30-2008 06:01 PM

E-Thugging is for fags, you know who you are. Ease up on the guy Zabac, you aren't helping any and frankly your e-thugging isn't entertaining at all.

y8s 07-30-2008 06:01 PM

goddamn dan, little sand in the vag today??

PS it's pretty weak to threaten that someone wont be around long when you dont have the authority to ban.

Gavin 07-30-2008 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by Zabac (Post 290124)
Noone is Dazzled, we have seen it all, and yes, we are smarter than you, just accept defeat and we may let you stay.

Good, ok, I'm a retarded little ------. Please dominate me more.

Arkmage 07-30-2008 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by Gavin (Post 290127)
Oooh ok. Now were getting somewhere ;)
I think its at about the same angle as the one in my ZX (OEM turbo) actually, but perhaps you have a point. Ill keep an eye on it. The center section was pretty well seized to the turbine housing though :bang:

A pickle fork can be wedged between the port bosses on the chra and the housing to split them apart. I had to do that on mine when I rebuilt it.

Gavin 07-30-2008 06:05 PM

5 degrees according to Garrett eh.. I have definitely seen more than that but its good to know!

Ya, John doesnt get quite as angry as I do :vash:

Edit- ^Pickle fork! this IS paying off!

jayc72 07-30-2008 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by Gavin (Post 290134)
Good, ok, I'm a retarded little ------. Please dominate me more.

You'll fit in nicely.

Zabac 07-30-2008 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by jayc72 (Post 290122)
Maybe you can be all tough guy once you turbo your car. Go sit in the corner with Hustler. Pray he doesn't touch you where you pee.

Hustler's been absent lately, and this place was getting a little soft...I am trying, I am trying...just not as good of an e-thug I suppose.



Originally Posted by Gavin
I just wish actual information that I could work off of and respond too was more often included

It's not hard to get help here...just ask for it.


Originally Posted by Zabac (Post 290010)
Home depot plumbing couplers are about the worst Idea I've ever seen used as IC couplers, they are not intended to handle any pressure whatsoever.

That was my first post in this thread...but you had to get your panties twisted.

Zabac 07-30-2008 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 290133)
goddamn dan, little sand in the vag today??

Yeah, end of month...I feel like going out to a bar and picking a fight


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 290133)
PS it's pretty weak to threaten that someone wont be around long when you dont have the authority to ban.

Some days, like today, that is a good thing!!!

Zabac 07-30-2008 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by Gavin (Post 290134)
Good, ok, I'm a retarded little ------. Please dominate me more.

Ok ok, I am sorry I came off a little temperamental, I am sure you are not half the ------ I think you are. Now I feel bad...come here wittle buddy :ughug:

I just need to get a few beers or need to get laid, preferably both.

Gavin 07-30-2008 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by Zabac (Post 290145)
I just need to get a few beers or need to get laid, preferably both.

Whoa, I can even relate to you people on a personal level.. Something us gearheads are too often missing :)

Arkmage 07-30-2008 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by Gavin (Post 290149)
Whoa, I can even relate to you people on a personal level.. Something us gearheads are too often missing :)

keep your fridge stocked and marry a 22 year old... you'll get all you can handle of both beer and sex.


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