opinions on rx7 460cc injectors im about to install
I put together a diy Turbo thread for my 2000 nb some time ago. The stock clutch went a month ago. I ditched the Garrett t3 once it failed me. I have been running the godspeed "super 60 t3" since September and love it. Autotuned on 7 psi with MS2. Have not dynod the car yet but I feel that it is time for more boost since the flyin miata clutch is broken in. I don't think the stock injectors will handle desired boost of 12psi. But I fucked up when I piecing together my kit and bought the red top rx7 injectors that you can't tell are high or low impedance until you try them out.what can I do and anyone see a problem here?
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I'm running 15psi on 425cc rx8 injectors so you should be fine.
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As for your dilemma: Try them, if they don't work, just sell them and buy the correct ones. Rx7 injectors *are not* expensive.
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I run them and the work fine. 64% duty cycle at 12 psi. And you can just test the resistance between the two pins to tell if they are high or low impedance...
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or you can read the part number on them, rx7 injectors are documented pretty well.
I still would get newer injectors instead. |
I looked up the number on the injector a while ago. I just have the one set that is "either/or" so i'm kinda stuck on that. How do I test the resistance to know if they're high or low?? what numbers should I be looking for. And can I still tune with them if they are low impedance on my MS II>??? thanks for the input guys
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2010 at the last 4 of the injector part number?
They are high impdenance and if you are worried just grab a mutlimeter, set it to read ohms and hit the 2 pins on the injector. |
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http://miataturbo.wikidot.com/fuel-injectors
High Ohm/saturated direct fit Miata plug and play replacement injectors (“F” connector) 89-91 RX-7 NA 460cc - Red Top #195500-2010 89-91 RX-7 Turbo 550cc - purple top #195500-2020 As Cardriver and Tech both said... put a meter on them and get the resistance. If its more than about 12 Ω, you are golden. The link above also has pics for identifying high and low ohm F connectors https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1334192925https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1334192925 Notice the connector clip tab? RC Engineering sez: Do I need high or low resistance injectors for my application? Injectors are classified into two categories. 1. High impedance/resistance (saturated) 12-16 Ohms. 2. Low impedance/resistance (peak & hold) 0.5-6 Ohms. Saturated injectors require roughly 1-1.5 amps to open the injector. Peak & hold injectors initially needs about 4-6 amps, and once open drops to roughly 2-3 amps to keep it open. ECU design will dictate the use of one or the other. Most late model cars will use saturated injectors. Of course if you are dead set on buying new injectors, you can always look into a set of FiveOhMotorsports or Injector Dynamics EV14s and ditch the 1970's level injector technology :) |
Renown Performance sells FICs for less than Fiveo's injectors, and substantially better quality than Fiveo at that.
/Support a forum vendor and all that if you want to go cheap. |
Good call, I didn't realize Renown was selling FIC. I'd seen Reverent recommend FiveOh in the past, so that's what I bought. I was unaware there was a quality issue FiveOh?? :facepalm:
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From what I understand, Fiveo buys the cheapest EV14 they can find, then bore it out to whatever they desire for cc-metric.
FIC buys the closest EV14 to their desired cc metric, then bores it out. FIC's process is similar to ID's, FiveO's process is the classic fleabay injector process. /YMMV and all though, I've only found that out via copious internet searching. |
Alright here are the numbers, all four have the #195500-1350 on them. But on the other side of the injector, 2 of them have a 25 with "E" on the injector clip. The other to have 26 with "F" on the clip. Still good? lol
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Nope, those are lo-z and not hi-z.
Well, there's a *chance* they may be 88s, but 88s were the black sheep of the RX7 family with respect to injectors. |
No! I'm pretty mad now. Came with pigtails too. Should I just scrap them. Or would I have a problem running these with megasquirt?
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Originally Posted by sickmiatabra
(Post 862959)
No! I'm pretty mad now. Came with pigtails too. Should I just scrap them. Or would I have a problem running these with megasquirt?
I've seen fully PNP hi-z 460cc RX7s go for as low as $50 in the classifieds here. However, if you MUST use those... high ohm---> http://www.witchhunter.com/flowdatapix/d1955001350h.jpg low ohm---> http://www.witchhunter.com/flowdatapix/d1955001350L.jpg Or just freaking test them with a multimeter already and get final answers. |
I'll check later tonight. I don't feel like going through that hassle either. If anyone has a set of injectors for sale/ let me know. I need to upload vids of my car and this is all I'm waiting on
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Crap, now I'm questioning MY injectors. Thanks BALEN Now I have to pay WitchHunter $50 so I can sleep at night :vash:
But yeah, test them with a multimeter and see what's up. |
Originally Posted by EO2K
(Post 862963)
Crap, now I'm questioning MY injectors. Thanks BALEN Now I have to pay WitchHunter $50 so I can sleep at night :vash:
But yeah, test them with a multimeter and see what's up. /The more you know! |
Originally Posted by sickmiatabra
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If anyone has a set of injectors for sale/ let me know.
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Yeah, I just checked and DW is still doing their "MT Special" upgraded service. The problem is that I only want these things flowed, not cleaned. I may PM or email DW and see if they have a "flow only" service. I really don't feel like spending ANOTHER $80 on injectors I may ultimately never use.
I'm really starting to hate my build :loser: |
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