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blaen99 04-11-2012 09:58 PM

https://www.miataturbo.net/miata-parts-sale-trade-5/bosch-ev14-injectors-fiveomotorsports-850cc-64633/

Take a gander at one member's experience, EO2K.

sickmiatabra 04-11-2012 10:02 PM

I want more boost!

EO2K 04-11-2012 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by blaen99 (Post 862972)
https://www.miataturbo.net/showthread.php?t=64633

Take a gander at one member's experience, EO2K.

Yeah, I JUST saw that. Super thrilled as you can imagine.

blaen99 04-11-2012 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 862977)
Yeah, I JUST saw that. Super thrilled as you can imagine.

Yeah, eBay injector vendors have a huuuuge history of being super-shady.

Venom injectors was the first to experiment with this, and they haven't gotten any better since then unfortunately.

Savington 04-11-2012 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by blaen99 (Post 862949)

FIC's process is similar to ID's

What's FIC's "process"? I can't find any information or data on their website beyond the advertised flow rate.

blaen99 04-11-2012 10:46 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 862998)
What's FIC's "process"? I can't find any information or data on their website beyond the advertised flow rate.

Googling like hell.

Both FIC and ID have people posting from their companies actively on various enthusiast forums.

Either way, my statement was meant to denote the difference in starting injector and boring (Aka, the big difference between the typical eBay process vs. what more reputable shops use), rather than the post-boring process.

cardriverx 04-11-2012 11:22 PM

If your going with nice injectors, I highly recommend these guys:

http://www.injectordynamics.com/

Paul Yaw is an awesome dude and I have seen the injectors used in some high HP builds and work flawless. Plus you get a full profile of the injector, which is rare.

Not to sound like a salesman haha.

dustinb 04-12-2012 10:39 AM

I definitely recommend not getting the RX7 injectors. I put the 460's in my car and they idled so poorly.

Techsalvager 04-12-2012 10:43 AM

I can idle just fine at 950-1000rpms at 1 to 1.04 lambda on 460 rx7 injectors

blaen99 04-12-2012 12:05 PM

I've been able to idle fine at 800-850rpms on RX7 injectors myself, Tech.

Only reason I'm upgrading my injectors is because I need MOAR INJECTOR!!!

That and I'm not rewiring my injector shiiit just for RX7 injectors.

Techsalvager 04-12-2012 01:30 PM

at stoich as well idling fine?
I want newer injectors for better gas mileage and better effiencey

blaen99 04-12-2012 01:32 PM

Yeah, no issues myself Tech.

I just have messed up injector wiring from my 1.8 swap, and if I'm gonna rewire, I'm gonna use better injectors.

sickmiatabra 04-21-2012 01:02 AM

Wtb injectors asap!

skou 04-21-2012 01:34 AM


Originally Posted by sickmiatabra (Post 867774)
Wtb injectors asap!

Just responed to your PM.

EO2K 04-21-2012 01:40 AM

Used Denso 540cc $150: https://www.miataturbo.net/miata-parts-sale-trade-5/denso-540cc-pnp-injectors-64975/

NEW DeatschWerks 600cc $285: https://www.miataturbo.net/miata-parts-sale-trade-5/new-old-parts-act-zm2-xtss-clutch-walbro-255lph-hp-dw-600cc-injectors-more-65057/ New in box, never installed

Used RX8 425cc $75: https://www.miataturbo.net/miata-parts-sale-trade-5/rx8-yellow-injectors-denso-195500-4450-a-65301/ If I didn't have injectors pending, I'd buy these.

The 425cc should be good for a shade over 200hp @ 3bar. Remember your NB fuel system runs around 4bar, so that meas 490cc in an NB, good to about 250hp. Just to complicate things even further, the NB does not use a vacuum referenced fuel pressure regulator, so every +psi of boost in the manifold is -psi on the fuel system. The 4bar/58psi rail pressure @ 12psi manifold is actually 46psi, so right around 437cc and 220hp. RC Engineering has a great free calculator HERE.

Take a look at DeatschWerks in the MT Vendor area of the classifieds. I'd HIGHLY recommend taking advantage of their cleaning and flow testing service upgrade when buying a set of used injectors.

All the injectors listed above should work for your application and all are available right now in the MT classifieds. These should all be Plug & Play for the Miata head/fuel rail/wiring but not the stock ECU. Go make some offers man!

skou 04-21-2012 01:53 AM


Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 867789)
Used RX8 425cc $75: https://www.miataturbo.net/showthread.php?t=65301 If I didn't have injectors pending, I'd buy these. Should be good for a shade over 200hp @ 43psi

Thanks for the plug! :)

EO2K 04-21-2012 02:03 AM


Originally Posted by skou (Post 867791)
Thanks for the plug! :)

I'll take 10% as finders fee :rofl:

No seriously, I'd have bought your RX8s and run them with a 1:1 adjustable FPR with a return line and a base pressure around 50psi. That's probably all the fuel I'd need for ALLOFIT on my Rotrex with the 88mm pulley

customfab87 04-21-2012 04:54 AM

Who's got the least expensive plug and play connectors to adapt the rx7 460cc hi imp to a 2001 Miata?

sickmiatabra 04-21-2012 12:39 PM

Thanks dude! I'm picking up the rx8 425cc's just glad I got pointed in the right direction. Im running megasquirt 2 diypnp from braineack. I love the autotune feature. My t3 is pushing 7psi right now and I know the stock injectors can't handle much more. Im planning to set it at 10 psi and go from there. I need to redo my.thread on the setup. So much has changed and I did it all on a budget

skou 04-21-2012 12:57 PM

Yeah, you did it on a budget and now I owe G $8! ;)


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