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Old Jun 5, 2010 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by SolarYellow510
The second post I linked is basically Stephanie saying the Begi S4 is the same as the Ebay manifolds that look exactly like it.

Which I have believed must be the case for a long time but hadn't bothered to research until now.
Oh snap, thats ******* awesome!!
Old Jun 5, 2010 | 12:15 AM
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'....basically have...' from Stephanie might fall a bit short of 'awesome' by your standards. A DSM is basicaly an Evo in some people's estimation. Basically is a tricky word.

Although I really dont give a crap anyway since if I were dropping coin I would get an S6 or more likely a custom setup from a member here.
Old Jun 5, 2010 | 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by brianc555
Anyone used these in the past? Will I have any issues finding turbos/downpipes or other parts to mate up?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mazda...item2ead65805a

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Turbo...item2c4f9cdbc0

Also I have seen a few people refer to "$250.00 DIY Kits" on here. How is that possible with the long list of parts needed to run effectively? Granted, I have never turboed an N/A car before...

My opinion is that it will crack.

250 bucks for a DIY? Sure. If you steal some stuff its very doable.

Cheap and relaible (on the street) and decently fast?

Used cast mani from someone going tubular.
Chinacharger.
Build your own MS.
Get a IC from wherever, ebay, used OEM etc. Buy some bends and make your own plumbing.
Used OEM BOV.
A simple water/meth system.
A local fabbed exhuast.
Your call on the clutch, I will go with a 1.6ACT setup personally.
Some injectors from an RX7.

And thats about it.

Or keep an eye out on the for sales, some sweet deals periodically there.
Old Jun 5, 2010 | 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by buffon01
Oh snap, thats ******* awesome!!
Read both of the linked threads all the way through. There's a lot of discussion about exactly how to brace it to maximize the time to failure.
Old Jun 5, 2010 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Sparetire
My opinion is that it will crack.

250 bucks for a DIY? Sure. If you steal some stuff its very doable.

Cheap and relaible (on the street) and decently fast?

Used cast mani from someone going tubular.
Chinacharger.
Build your own MS.
Get a IC from wherever, ebay, used OEM etc. Buy some bends and make your own plumbing.
Used OEM BOV.
A simple water/meth system.
A local fabbed exhuast.
Your call on the clutch, I will go with a 1.6ACT setup personally.
Some injectors from an RX7.

And thats about it.

Or keep an eye out on the for sales, some sweet deals periodically there.




OR, you can get most of this stuff from me if your not a complete deadbeat noob.

Cast Begi Mani, Stainless Steel DP, GT2560, IC, piping, injectors, and prob few other odds and ends....

PM if interested
Old Jun 5, 2010 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by p51hellfire
you going to back up that statement with proof? How do you know that there the same? I though bell made there **** in house minus the cast manifolds.
The S4 manifold is one of the very few items we do not make in house. We did contract someone in China to make it. Supposedly, his brother in law stole the design, copied it, and that is what you find on eBay. Either way, knowing we were dealing with the unethical Chinese market, we did not have it made in it's final form. We do take the manifold, add the EGR, resurface it, and upgrade a few other things. So will the e-bay one work, sure, but not for long.

No manifold support - I guarantee it will crack, somewhere, within 500 miles. Small studs will break and/ or stretch. No EGR either. You can add it, but it will cost you.
Stephanie
Taken from this thread:

http://www.mazda-speed.com/forum2/in...c,19582.0.html
Old Jun 5, 2010 | 12:03 PM
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Similar statements to the other thread. Sounds like they get the parts in and touch up the worst of the obvious QC pitfalls. Re-melt any really embarrassing welds, grind the flanges flat, etc. If you look at all the pictures on Begi's site and all the pictures on Ebay, there is no obvious difference in workmanship.

EGR is something a lot of customers don't care about, and that's different on different years of 1.8. It would make no sense for the factory to build four different versions of the manifold to cover the variations.

The brace Begi sells is basically an adjustable end link, but they charge $150 for it, where Emilio charges $80 for a pair of end links. Or you can buy a few parts and a couple tools and make your own for about $30.
Old Jun 5, 2010 | 12:39 PM
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I didnt read the thread after reading the post SolarYellow posted. Anyway is still not a bad deal.
Old Jun 6, 2010 | 01:20 AM
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Ok, so if you wonder where i got my awesome post from in here, youtube vtec song and you will laugh, promise. As for the chinese knock offs, chinese people, in general, not all, have no buisness ethics what so ever, and will tell you anything to get you to buy something. They will straight rip off designs, then cut corners, say their products are the same, and leave you walking away with a swollen back side. My wife designs dresses, that's how i know. So please buy some chinese knock off piece of crap, and keep us rolling at your expense. Then go buy a shanghai s, which ironically is centered around a chinese knock off, and have a fun car, and profit.
Old Jun 6, 2010 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by chicksdigmiatas
Ok, so if you wonder where i got my awesome post from in here, youtube vtec song and you will laugh, promise. As for the chinese knock offs, chinese people, in general, not all, have no buisness ethics what so ever, and will tell you anything to get you to buy something. They will straight rip off designs, then cut corners, say their products are the same, and leave you walking away with a swollen back side. My wife designs dresses, that's how i know. So please buy some chinese knock off piece of crap, and keep us rolling at your expense. Then go buy a shanghai s, which ironically is centered around a chinese knock off, and have a fun car, and profit.

New forum word....

"Hyperesque"
Old Jun 6, 2010 | 11:20 AM
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Old Jun 6, 2010 | 02:45 PM
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lol accept for hustler you all fail imo
Old Jun 6, 2010 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by KPLAFIN
I think the real question you have to ask yourself anytime you buy ANY manifold is:



Will turbo hit block?
I love you.
Old Jun 6, 2010 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyV
OR, you can get most of this stuff from me if your not a complete deadbeat noob.

Cast Begi Mani, Stainless Steel DP, GT2560, IC, piping, injectors, and prob few other odds and ends....

PM if interested
Hence the 'for sale' comment. Sounds like a good setup.
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