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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 10:10 AM
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Haha. I'm going around the radiator like you folks have never seen before. Well, one guy with a NA did it, but he had to remove his headlights for it to work. Not on my NB.
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbo_4
That's how I plan on doing mine...through the holes in front of the radiator.
If you look close eider of douse setups require to move the radiator back Track Dog IC setup require to move even the A/C radiator back and only a lintel bit of cutting
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 10:30 AM
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Though it is not exactly the same as an NA, on my NB i dropped the radiator about 1.5" and tilted the top about 6"-7" towards the engine; this is with a 2" thick core oversized radiator and the stock A/C condenser. I have an over the top intercooler setup with 2.5" tubing, , and it clears the hood with no cutting.

Seems like you could do the same on an NA though you will have to fab some lower radiator bracket extenders. But that is no big deal IMO. You will also need slim fans.
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 11:53 AM
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I removed my hood latch assembly and will be feeding the ic pipes through the center part. I had to cut the underside of my hood but then again, im not using a stock hood
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 12:05 PM
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Again, I have a NB, but the idea is the same. Really, just move the radiator back. It is easy, and that is how TDR does it.

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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 03:42 PM
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Just cut your hood. It takes 5 minutes and if you're careful you'll be fine.



I didn't have to move my giant radiator either.
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 03:46 PM
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please, get that filter away from there. thats some counter productive thinking right there ^^
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 04:17 PM
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Cowpoke what intercooler are you using?
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Cowpoke
Just cut your hood. It takes 5 minutes and if you're careful you'll be fine.



I didn't have to move my giant radiator either.

This is what I'm talking about...not moving the radiator.
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 05:36 PM
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between the iat sensor and filter, temps must be high no?
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by tvalenziano
between the iat sensor and filter, temps must be high no?
Not sure if I understand well but... correct me if I'm wrong but, the there is no link between the 2. The IAT must be as close as the manifold as possible to be sure that it reads the temperature of the air that enter the combustion chambers no?
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 06:25 PM
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I think he means to move the filter so that it is not right behind the radiator, in the hot air exiting the radiator.
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 06:44 PM
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that little kink on the TD setup that goes around the radiator hose is really key, I'm using straight pipe and one of those hump connectors, so it'll bend a little bit. its pressed right up against that radiator hose though. I don't know how you guys move your radiator, seems like if you did that S coolant hose would kink trying to go slightly backwards to connect to the head.
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 07:03 PM
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If I understand you correctly I have a solution for that; I found the perfect radiator hose at Auto Zone. I'll post up with more info later.
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by tvalenziano
between the iat sensor and filter, temps must be high no?
i have a filter right on my turbo and i only see about 130 deg IATs with a straion intercooler @12psi
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 07:35 PM
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The point is moving the air filter somewhere else where it can get cooler air will improve performance and system efficiencies. You wouldn't hook a hose in your cooling system bypassing the radiator would you? So why would you put the air filter where it can pick up heat dumped by the various heat exchangers and then send it back to be dumped again? The denser the air going in the turbo, the better. Granted, hot air intakes on turbo setups is common. But that doesn't mean it's ideal.
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by patsmx5
The point is moving the air filter somewhere else where it can get cooler air will improve performance and system efficiencies. You wouldn't hook a hose in your cooling system bypassing the radiator would you? So why would you put the air filter where it can pick up heat dumped by the various heat exchangers and then send it back to be dumped again? The denser the air going in the turbo, the better. Granted, hot air intakes on turbo setups is common. But that doesn't mean it's ideal.
Yeah that's good. I'd be curious to know intake temp difference between the "filter behind rad" vs "filter at a more commun place" tough! Just to see if there is a big difference.

But in that low filter setup, I'd be woried more about water getting into it than the hot air it sucks.
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by patsmx5
Haha. I'm going around the radiator like you folks have never seen before. Well, one guy with a NA did it, but he had to remove his headlights for it to work. Not on my NB.
Like this. Only I haven't cut the sheet metal out of the way to slide the couplers on. But you'll get the idea anyways. Invisible FMIC FTW.

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Will do a writeup whenever I finally finish this and get turbo'd. But this IC mounting method has it's advantages for NB's.
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 08:43 PM
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^^ Hey I seeeerioulsy considered something like that. Very cool to see someone trying it. If (when) it works I think that is a good option.
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 08:47 PM
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Haha, Nice pat!

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