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Old 02-26-2014, 12:10 PM   #41
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You wouldn't get those readings without a wideband. Find out what you have before you buy more stuff you probably don't need.

This may involve actually getting under the car and looking for o2 sensors and following wiring from there until you find a controller.
I am uncertain of how to differentiate between a regular O2 sensor and a wideband. Will I be able to gleen this from pulling them? I have tried following the wires from the O2 sensor that is downstream from the turbo.. I didn't see a controller.
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I am uncertain of how to differentiate between a regular O2 sensor and a wideband. Will I be able to gleen this from pulling them? I have tried following the wires from the O2 sensor that is downstream from the turbo.. I didn't see a controller.
You don't have to remove anything. You just have to figure out what you're working with.

Because what's going to happen now is that you're going to install ANOTHER wideband in your car, then wire it to your Megasquirt... which is already clearly receiving a wideband signal from an existing wideband.

And that's just dumb.
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So did I do the right thing? Not really sure where to go from here, other than praying that my lack of knowledge doesn't blow my car up.
The right thing would have been to not **** with your Req Fuel table, and fix the actual tune, using information you've gotten from the wideband that's installed and working on your car.
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At this point, it may just be easier to rip everything out and start over.
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Old 02-26-2014, 12:26 PM   #45
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The right thing would have been to not **** with your Req Fuel table, and fix the actual tune, using information you've gotten from the wideband that's installed and working on your car.
I loaded the vanilla base map from Mega Squirt for that year miata.. Unfortunately fiddling with the req_fuel value was something I could not avoid doing (I think). I just loaded that map on there and started fiddling, praying to Miata Jesus that my car didn't blow up or pre-fire or.. something.

I am thinking that someone else did the same thing at one point because my shuttling issue was still there. My shuttling issue is now non-existant with the fuel value I am running now.

Regarding the wideband, I will probably swap it out for the innovate, because I've heard great things about it. Also I can put another sweet gauge in my car. Because, you know. Gauges.
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Old 02-26-2014, 12:28 PM   #46
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At this point, it may just be easier to rip everything out and start over.
Does that include my heart? So hurtful. SO MUCH TIME. And so much failure.

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I loaded the vanilla base map from Mega Squirt for that year miata.. Unfortunately fiddling with the req_fuel value was something I could not avoid doing (I think). I just loaded that map on there and started fiddling, praying to Miata Jesus that my car didn't blow up or pre-fire or.. something.

I am thinking that someone else did the same thing at one point because my shuttling issue was still there. My shuttling issue is now non-existant with the fuel value I am running now.

Regarding the wideband, I will probably swap it out for the innovate, because I've heard great things about it. Also I can put another sweet gauge in my car. Because, you know. Gauges.
Why did you load a map when there was already one in it?

You could have sucked the old tune out of the megasquirt that likely had many of the variables and settings loaded correctly.

Can you post a screen shot of your o2 sensor settings page? Also, take a picture of your injectors and post that. We have asked for pictures several times here and I don't believe we have seen them.
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Re: required fuel

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or leave it alone because it was already tuned for the setup you know **** about.
Only it appears it is not. It appears he loaded a NEW basemap. So all bets are off on everyfuckingthing.

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Does that include my heart? So hurtful. SO MUCH TIME. And so much failure.

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Ok, so everything doesn't necessarily have to come out, but you need to know what ACTUAL parts you have. You don't know what injectors you have, you don't know if you have a narrowband or wideband o2 sensor, anything you might have suspected by looking at your old tune (the one that was running the car when you bought it) is moot because (it appears) you just wrote over it.

So now you are at square one blind with a turbo motor. Congratulations.

You don't have to rip everything out, but you damn well DO need to know what you have FOR CERTAIN.

Some 550cc injectors can be run directly into the megasquirt natively. Some injectors need what is called a "peak and hold" board. Some injectors that might have 550 on the injector might not actually be 550cc injectors but might just have those numbers in the part number. We don't even know if you have a megasquirt 1, 2, wither or not its a plug and play unit or if it is custom. We don't know if you are running sequential or batch. We don't know if you are running wasted spark... We don't know if you have a variable throttle position switch. If you have a non-pnp megasquirt, we don't know what wires are routed into what pins. (this matters).

So we know almost nothing, and just like a doctor, when you know nothing, you need to investigate and often times that includes looking at the parts themselves and not just changing medication, diet, other bullshit till something happens.

Right now you may be trying to milk a cat. Stop. Take pictures. Take screenshots. POST THEM AND HOST THEM HERE. My employer and other employers block instagram and other picture hosting services and like it or not, I check out this site on my breaks.
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If you didn't know how to tune before, you sure will learn how to now.


I'm going to go ahead and suggest what i suggested before and park the car until you get things figured out.
Why did you go ahead and buy a modded vehicle as a daily anyway? That's never a good idea, ever.
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Why did you go ahead and buy a modded vehicle as a daily anyway? That's never a good idea, ever.
QFT.

OP, you really need to heed the advice given here, and stop tinkering before you blow it up for good. Please post some detailed pictures and listen to the advice! There is in incredible amount of knowledge here, and lots of it comes from experience. You aren't the first one to run across this situation, but if you keep playing with it you'll likely end up like many others before you, parting out the car within a few months of purchase.

Right now, it seems the injectors are the first critical step. Pull one and get the numbers, or post some close up pictures. Maybe it can be easily identified.
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If I read the word "shuttling" one more time...
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So, it's been three pages, but I haven't checked through them.

Has he taken photos of anything yet? Or is he still in the "I'm not sure if I have a wideband or not, and I don't know how to tell, but pictures that might help others determine that for me will never happen, so I'm just going to install a new wideband and ask the same questions." phase?
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It's up on Craigslist. I almost went and looked at this car. Had a trip come up, couldn't make it and ended up buying a buddy's car instead. It seemed a little sketch to me, but for the price I almost took a chance.
1997 TURBO MAZDA MIATA MX-5 Extremely FAST FS/FT
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It's up on Craigslist. I almost went and looked at this car. Had a trip come up, couldn't make it and ended up buying a buddy's car instead. It seemed a little sketch to me, but for the price I almost took a chance.
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That radiator hose.

I also hate people who say they cant afford the speeding tickets with a particular car. You pay the same ticket for doing 90 in a 65 whether your driving a miata or a grand marque.
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That radiator hose.

I also hate people who say they cant afford the speeding tickets with a particular car. You pay the same ticket for doing 90 in a 65 whether your driving a miata or a grand marque.
lol @ just calling out the radiator hose.

So many details scream hack-job.

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I have no clue how to do anything or what any of this stuff is.

*gives up and posts craigslist listing with a bunch of lies to pawn the car off on some other poor sap for $1000 more than paid*
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" Very fun and easy to tune, just use your laptop. Plug and play. "

Priceless
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I am interested to see how the EWG is mounted and dumped. Who knows what kind of manifold it is and DP?
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