Mrmiyagi01

Will the higher tiers be the product some have been looking for as a middle ground between 2560r and a GTX28xx?

Quick noteworthy points is they are journal bearing and oil cooled
Internally wastegated
GTX Gen II compressor aero
Billet compressor wheel
Also have noted the inducer is significantly smaller than that of the 2560r

Compressor map of the GBC22-350 looks comparable to a gt2560r on the low end but more flow up top for longer but im no expert.
Any thoughts on these?

https://www.garrettmotion.com/racing...ine-gbc22-350/

shuiend

iTrader: (24)

Those look very interesting. I may have to grab one to try out in the future.

msmola2002

https://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchan...&Store_Code=tp

​​​​​​same dollarydoos as a 2560R. Interdasting.

Mrmiyagi01

Definitely considering upgrading from mine, it fits my goals without wasting top end

msmola2002

I wonder how the housing compatibility is. If that would mate to a T3 5 bolt Ferd style housing, like the 2560 does, that would be a drop in for an MKtrubo upgrade.

Mrmiyagi01

It does appear to have the same flanges as a gt2560r

shuiend

iTrader: (24)

I talked to my rep at ATP. They are about 2-3 weeks from having some of these turbos in stock. Once they are in, they should be check to see if any other housing fit on it.

msmola2002

Yep. To clarify, the eBay T3 used in the MK setup uses a ford 5 bolt flange. You can spec a 2560, or bigger unit like a 2860 gen 2 with a T3 housing

This little guy here
https://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchan...y_Code=GTHGT25 there is a different one that will work with the 2860, 2867,71s.

Or buy the GT2560R with that housing fitted for the same monies as a T25 version
https://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchan...Code=GTGT2560R

So I am kinda hoping you may be able to swap the housing to a T3 unit to fit the MK setup

edit: lars beat me to it

Mrmiyagi01

I really hoping this will be a bolt in replacement for my kraken parts.

msmola2002

https://www.garrettmotion.com/wp-con...ge-diagram.pdf dimensions of a 2560

dimensions of the new fella. looks like 171.4mm long for the 2560, but that is without the fitting for the compressor inlet and total length for the new one. So looks a wee bit more compact and shorter, so that is good in that will free up maybe half an inch in front of the turbo, so perhaps more room for activities? but you may need to rejigger IC piping, if the turbo effectively sits a little further back.

Mrmiyagi01

[QUOTE=msmola2002;1603951]https://www.garrettmotion.com/wp-con...ge-diagram.pdf dimensions of a 2560

dimensions of the new fella. looks like 171.4mm long for the 2560, but that is without the fitting for the compressor inlet and total length for the new one. So looks a wee bit more compact and shorter, so that is good in that will free up maybe half an inch in front of the turbo, so perhaps more room for activities? but you may need to rejigger IC piping, if the turbo effectively sits a little further back.
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I wonder what the dimensions from the t25 flange to the back of the exhaust housing are as that would be the main factor for most fitment issues. Charge piping and intake are easy to shimmy around to fit, downpipe clearance not so much.

I'm scared of big hammers

shuiend

iTrader: (24)

I am doubtful there will be any differences in dimensions there.

der_vierte

Very interesting for a lot of guys, I believe. Like the Borgwarner Airwerks. Journal bearing, latest tech Aero, but 2/3 of the price of the big boys. Not bad!

If these spool a little bit better or just equal to a 2560R,these should sell pretty good.

shuiend

iTrader: (24)

I am hoping for a little better spool then a 2560, but a top end that is a bit above 300whp.

der_vierte

What an option that would be! Especially for 1.6 owners

shuiend

iTrader: (24)

I talked to ATP today. They have them in stock. Unfortunately t3 housings do not fit on them.

der_vierte

Sad, but was expected a little bit, because the one we are all interested in, is the biggest they offer. :(

We should make a petition

andyfloyd

Someone needs to test one of these. Pretty cool

shuiend

iTrader: (24)

I'm still planning on grabbing one to test out. No idea when though since they won't work in a t3 housing. My motivation to test T2 turbos is far lower. And I need to save my pennies for those NC Xidas that Ed just posted about.

Mrmiyagi01

I think even before anyone has posted numbers I will be buying one in the future, saves me from switching to efr or wasting money on a GTX or G series. But still so interested to see real world numbers!