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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 02:16 PM
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I would say oil starvation due to banjo bolt and restrictor.
Old Nov 29, 2009 | 02:22 PM
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Man I miss my 1.6 HKS manifold, such a piece of art! Are you sure you never sucked in some of that silicon sealant I see at the inlet?
Old Nov 29, 2009 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by dustinb
It looks like your oil is feeding from the side, not the top. The oil should be coming straight down into the turbo, and exiting straight down as well.
Pretty much all oil feeds come in from the side to feed the top port, as it would put quite a kink in the hose if it came straight down into the feed port and then bend it to clear the hood.
Old Nov 29, 2009 | 02:28 PM
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Port next to the oil filter? Picture please.
Old Nov 29, 2009 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by gianic
I sent an email to atp and told me that if I send them my old chra they will send me a new one for 466 dollars . Has anybody done this before?
Yeah, I have. As long as it's a real Garrett CHRA and you haven't tried to disassemble it for any reason, they'll replace it regardless of the damage.

I can't imagine the turbo was under-oiled. I run an .035 restrictor and so do a lot of other people, and there aren't a rash of failures like this. My bet is that because you've got the boost controller hooked into the intake manifold, it's overspinning the everliving **** out of the turbo and causing your failures.
Old Nov 29, 2009 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Savington
Yeah, I have. As long as it's a real Garrett CHRA and you haven't tried to disassemble it for any reason, they'll replace it regardless of the damage.

I can't imagine the turbo was under-oiled. I run an .035 restrictor and so do a lot of other people, and there aren't a rash of failures like this. My bet is that because you've got the boost controller hooked into the intake manifold, it's overspinning the everliving **** out of the turbo and causing your failures.

Should the wastegate line be hooked up post intercooler/pre intake?
Old Nov 29, 2009 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by zoomin
Pretty much all oil feeds come in from the side to feed the top port, as it would put quite a kink in the hose if it came straight down into the feed port and then bend it to clear the hood.
I mean that it appeared from his first picture that the oil was coming in sideways. Like yes, the line comes in from the side, but makes a turn and goes downwards. You can't have the oil shoot in from the side, continue to keep going along the horizontal axis, and then continue out the drain on the other side. The oil still needs to fall in a vertical axis.
Old Nov 29, 2009 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by zoomin
Man I miss my 1.6 HKS manifold, such a piece of art! Are you sure you never sucked in some of that silicon sealant I see at the inlet?
Couldn't be this. The problem is in the bearings. Beside this my 2nd turbo hadn't any silicone sealant.
Old Nov 29, 2009 | 07:16 PM
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Port next to the oil filter? Picture please.
Hmm can't get any down there. If anyone could post a side pic of a bp 99 block I could show you.
Old Nov 29, 2009 | 08:03 PM
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Should the wastegate line be hooked up post intercooler/pre intake?
yep.
Old Nov 29, 2009 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Savington
yep.
I think a lot of people connect internal wastegates to the manifold so that vacuum hold it closed when the engines in vacuum, but Ive always wondered if it was bad fro the diaphram
Old Nov 29, 2009 | 08:11 PM
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I will post a video tomorrow with the drain.
Old Nov 30, 2009 | 06:23 AM
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Ok , in the 1st video you can see the drain, nothing, not a single drop..

In the 2nd video is the oil feed, it fills 0.5l bottle in a few seconds with and without the restrictor.

Sorry for the poor quality , it's from my mobile.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvCOOuv1Pe8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14ey_cH2CbE

Any suggestions?
Old Nov 30, 2009 | 09:13 AM
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this is a T3 turbo drain with a .060" restrictor at idle:




you has no oil going through the turbo for some reason...
Old Nov 30, 2009 | 12:37 PM
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Yes propably, could you figure out why? Is it possible from dirty oil?
Old Nov 30, 2009 | 01:13 PM
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no clue...maybe your oil drain gasket didnt have a hole in it? seriously odd one.
Old Nov 30, 2009 | 02:07 PM
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What's on the end of that oil line? Did you check flow through the restrictor? Look at the restrictor and see if there is damage or possibly an error with the machining ... does the hole go all the way through?
Old Nov 30, 2009 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by gianic
...it fills 0.5l bottle in a few seconds with and without the restrictor... Any suggestions?
That would eliminate the restrictor if it flowed the same. What did the two failed turbos have in common? same oil? same drain?
Old Nov 30, 2009 | 02:28 PM
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did you see his first video? there's zero oil going THROUGH the turbo out the drain... that's a big issue.
Old Nov 30, 2009 | 02:43 PM
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He has the line looped though. Remember it's only gravity carrying the oil away. It's not going to make it's way up that loop.

Gianic, try it again with the bottle under the oil pan.



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