Why doesn't Garrett or Borg make these for tuner applications?
#62
I still fail to see what the big deal is about something like this. At the end of the day, let's say that you make your power even earlier than any current setup. This would be great for a daily driver, but pretty pointless for a properly setup track car. Even doing this with a peak of 450 whp, I'd like to see one of you guys beat Andrew around the track with his current 350 whp setup. This is a great discussion for the internet, but when it comes time to putting down a fast lap, there's more to it than horsepower.
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Yes this.
Fwiw i have gt40 frame turbo and am pullin out all the tricks for spool
Quick spool valve
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it still spools only 10psi in first. At 8000rpm.
I think you would need nitrous for full spool on every gear. Btw 25psi is a lot less than 36psi. I have a big caulk.
Fwiw i have gt40 frame turbo and am pullin out all the tricks for spool
Quick spool valve
Shiloads of Meth
Shiloads of timing
Soon-to-be pre compressor WI
it still spools only 10psi in first. At 8000rpm.
I think you would need nitrous for full spool on every gear. Btw 25psi is a lot less than 36psi. I have a big caulk.
#66
might be late to the party on this thread but they are doing these for the after market. about several months ago a looked at a document that explained at a high level how those turbos will be released with a integrated controller. I don't remember all the details but I do recall the sizes are borderline too large for our car. when I have time I will track down the doc but I'm sure you guys can find it if you want. the doc was linked on another forum.
#67
I still fail to see what the big deal is about something like this. At the end of the day, let's say that you make your power even earlier than any current setup. This would be great for a daily driver, but pretty pointless for a properly setup track car. Even doing this with a peak of 450 whp, I'd like to see one of you guys beat Andrew around the track with his current 350 whp setup. This is a great discussion for the internet, but when it comes time to putting down a fast lap, there's more to it than horsepower.
#68
I agree with all of this. I know this would not be the solution to track only cars as it really wouldnt make a difference. This type of turbo would be best suited for the street track or street only car for driveability and quick launches. It could also be great for drifting as many if not most to all drifters go V8 for the response. I'm not guaranteeing it will ever be possible for a low displacment 4 cylinder to make full boost from a large turbo at 2500 rpms but optimistically that's what a turbo like this would be designed for and look forward to future development. Mark my word though, this is the future of turbo charging and most if not all OEM applications will have this technology or some form of it within the next 5-10 years.
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Okay, Joose,
The only problem I have is with your 'full boost at 2500' concept given the context of 500hp up top from a sub 2 liter four-stroke 'conventional' engine using one turbo.
Your cylinder pressures would be, well, let's just say I forsee a lot of paperweights in your future.
What you want is this
The only problem I have is with your 'full boost at 2500' concept given the context of 500hp up top from a sub 2 liter four-stroke 'conventional' engine using one turbo.
Your cylinder pressures would be, well, let's just say I forsee a lot of paperweights in your future.
What you want is this
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#72
It's not a statement of opinion, most drifters definitely are not "going v8." Look at the cars that dominate a drift lineup.
And how are you gonna get on here and say "yeah I know my super turbo won't make a difference on the track" when you ride all over hustler's jock about how your little luv rocket will poo all over him in every way, when he (2nd to savington) has the DEFINITION of a capable track turbo miata?
And how are you gonna get on here and say "yeah I know my super turbo won't make a difference on the track" when you ride all over hustler's jock about how your little luv rocket will poo all over him in every way, when he (2nd to savington) has the DEFINITION of a capable track turbo miata?
#74
It's not a statement of opinion, most drifters definitely are not "going v8." Look at the cars that dominate a drift lineup.
And how are you gonna get on here and say "yeah I know my super turbo won't make a difference on the track" when you ride all over hustler's jock about how your little luv rocket will poo all over him in every way, when he (2nd to savington) has the DEFINITION of a capable track turbo miata?
And how are you gonna get on here and say "yeah I know my super turbo won't make a difference on the track" when you ride all over hustler's jock about how your little luv rocket will poo all over him in every way, when he (2nd to savington) has the DEFINITION of a capable track turbo miata?
In dumba$$ terms: People in the drifing scene that decide to go from a 4 cylinder to a v8 do so for increased response and convienience of having optimal torque at a much broader range.
Can you comprehend that?