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Old 08-23-2011, 10:27 AM
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Old 08-23-2011, 10:32 AM
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And used exactly as intended. Makes a nice MegaSquirt to vehicle harness adapter, doesn't it.
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works good as a cat comb untill you assemble it.
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So does this mean we will soon get MS3 PNP?
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i mean all you have to do is ask.

I built that harness last night for a ms3x '91.
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If only they were like... $45 instead of $90. Too much money for something that's pretty but almost never seen
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I dont care about looks, I care about function. Makes the harness so much cleaner, and easier. Much easier to make any changes or do things like build circuits like seen above.
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Wow that's good news.
Stuff like this makes me laugh: reminds me of when I found out that you could order begi/fm logs in t3 footprint, and "all you had to do was ask"

WE DONT ASK BECAUSE WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT EXISTS

Now we know. And will ask.
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Originally Posted by ianferrell View Post
If only they were like... $45 instead of $90. Too much money for something that's pretty but almost never seen
This. I was once asking customers if they wanted the DIYBOB for an extra $90, so that their harness would like nice, protected, etc. I stopped asking after I got a solid 100% no.
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I still don't understand how this is cleaner or more robust. You're soldering to a 1/8" board vs. 1/4" prong. And it comes off at a 90* angle.


P.S. I saw in the latest email that you now have thumb screws for the MS side of the harness. How can we order just that thumb-screw-equipped case?
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I've probably built 40+ harnesses by cutting off the legs of the connector and soldering directly to it, then heat shrinking.

I prefer this tenfold; I wish mine was built this way. but i do agree it comes at a premimum for sure... cough cough.
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Originally Posted by 18psi View Post
Wow that's good news.
Stuff like this makes me laugh: reminds me of when I found out that you could order begi/fm logs in t3 footprint, and "all you had to do was ask"

WE DONT ASK BECAUSE WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT EXISTS

Now we know. And will ask.
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Originally Posted by curly View Post
I still don't understand how this is cleaner or more robust. You're soldering to a 1/8" board vs. 1/4" prong. And it comes off at a 90* angle.


P.S. I saw in the latest email that you now have thumb screws for the MS side of the harness. How can we order just that thumb-screw-equipped case?
The cleaner part is that this is all covered up by what's basically a cut down DIYPNP case once it's finished.

I find holes a bit easier to solder to, as the wire isn't likely to move as far. The final connection isn't any stronger, but it is a bit easier to assemble. Other than the Mustang adapters, which use a specially made crimp connector, if we did PNP systems as adapter harnesses, we'd go for the board approach to make production easier.
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Originally Posted by Matt Cramer View Post
The cleaner part is that this is all covered up by what's basically a cut down DIYPNP case once it's finished.
The thing Braineack failed to show us you mean? That makes sense now.


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P.S. I saw in the latest email that you now have thumb screws for the MS side of the harness. How can we order just that thumb-screw-equipped case?
*cough cough*
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The case hasn't changed; we've just changed the screws on the DB37.
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I'd actually argue the solder joints on the PCB of the DIYBOB are better/stronger.

I've had bad things happen on my personal harness: pins pull out/weaken, pins break off from stress, and wires fall off at the solder joint.

also, things like running multiple wires into a single pin becomes a real pain or even making changes - you'll find yourself trying ot remove heatshrink and making a mess out of things, where the PCB allows you to simply pull the wire out of a hole and move it to another.

Will I still build them like that, surely, but I always suggest the DIYBOB first if the user is willing to go that route.

fwiw, this is only the second I've ever built.
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Old 08-24-2011, 11:05 AM
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This is a great option for people that want to go from a diypnp to an MS3 and not change all of their wiring.
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not sure if i follow you.
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Old 08-24-2011, 11:12 AM
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So you can plug your ms3 into your factory harness which is utilized by the diypnp.
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this should be the norm regardless of what previous ecu you used; stock or aftermarket.


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