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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 03:10 PM
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Are these the same coils that 034 Motorsports sell?
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 03:22 PM
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Yes, these are the same as one of the coils that 034 offers.
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Buy an MSPNP Pro, you'll feel better.

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Old Mar 14, 2010 | 09:07 AM
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These are very good coils, we have been using 034 motorsport coils on our cars for almost a year now. No problems at all, seems to handle beating very well
Next we'll install 034 coils to our miata project car with DIYPNP ecu.

Heres 034 coil setup on one of our clients skyline:

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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Ben
Can't grab a good picture of how the miata is set up right now, but here's a pic of the 1000 hp 2.7l Mustang that also runs them. That car is boosting 40+ psi and runs 8.90 quarters.

That car would do 8.70's with Jesel finger followers. Just sayin...

That coil seems badass though.
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Old Mar 16, 2010 | 11:55 PM
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How much work would be involved in modifying the MSPnP *non-diy* to accept and run these coils? Is it merely a programing thing or are there hardware changes/updates that need to be made?
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by halfdemonpyro
How much work would be involved in modifying the MSPnP *non-diy* to accept and run these coils? Is it merely a programing thing or are there hardware changes/updates that need to be made?
Except for a few very early MM9093 units, nothing. They just need the dwell backed off a little.
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 09:46 AM
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I'll be in the market for a ignition setup in the next month and I just ran into this thread.

I had planned on going the OEM Toyota COP route, but if this is a better choice I'm down with that.

So if I have a MSPNP 90-93 and was interested in these, would you guys happen to have some sort of writeup or parts list needed to make this work?

I can have a bracket made, do the wiring myself, play on the laptop with MSPNP, but I would like to know exactly what it is I have to do before I buy anything.
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 02:27 PM
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I want these badly. ANy clue as far as what Id need to do if anything for the Hydra to work with these? Wiring directions come with them?
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 03:53 PM
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Vash,
That's the exact set up (MSPNP MM9093 and (4) IGN coils) currently on our 1.6 S3 turbo car. Works great. The only issue with a 1.6 car is that you'd need a tach driver, since the original ignitor supplies the signal to the dash tach, and these coils do not do that. Our MM9093 does not have a tach driver on board, however the DIYPNP does. We're chewing over the best way to help people with this, and may offer a schematic and/or parts kit so you can build a tach driver.

94.5 and later miatas have ECU generated tach output, so it's not a concern on later cars. For a 94.5+, all you'd need to do is wire/bolt up the coils and set your dwell time to 2.5 ms. MM9495 and MM9697 MSPNP ECUs all have on board tach drivers.

Here is the coil pinout:

A - Ignition signal from ECU
B - Logic ground, connect to ECU ground
C - Spark wire ground, connect to cylinder head
D - Power ground, connect to battery negative
E - 12 volt power

The connector identifies the pins
http://www.diyautotune.com/images/pr...gn-1a_conn.jpg

The only thing you'd need to do with a Hydra is set dwell time.
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Originally Posted by concealer404
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Ben
Vash,
That's the exact set up (MSPNP MM9093 and (4) IGN coils) currently on our 1.6 S3 turbo car. Works great. The only issue with a 1.6 car is that you'd need a tach driver, since the original ignitor supplies the signal to the dash tach, and these coils do not do that. Our MM9093 does not have a tach driver on board, however the DIYPNP does. We're chewing over the best way to help people with this, and may offer a schematic and/or parts kit so you can build a tach driver.

94.5 and later miatas have ECU generated tach output, so it's not a concern on later cars. For a 94.5+, all you'd need to do is wire/bolt up the coils and set your dwell time to 2.5 ms. MM9495 and MM9697 MSPNP ECUs all have on board tach drivers.

Here is the coil pinout:

A - Ignition signal from ECU
B - Logic ground, connect to ECU ground
C - Spark wire ground, connect to cylinder head
D - Power ground, connect to battery negative
E - 12 volt power

The connector identifies the pins
http://www.diyautotune.com/images/pr...gn-1a_conn.jpg

The only thing you'd need to do with a Hydra is set dwell time.
Thank you very much! Ill be getting a set of these shortly
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Old Apr 7, 2010 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Ben
Vash,

The only thing you'd need to do with a Hydra is set dwell time.
And dwell trim?

Got any out-of-the-box mounting solutions? If I make it, it will be Fugly.
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Old Apr 7, 2010 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by faeflora
And dwell trim?

Got any out-of-the-box mounting solutions? If I make it, it will be Fugly.
I am still waiting for pictures of how they have them mounted in Jerrys Miata.
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 09:27 AM
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Any updates on pictures of these installed in the Miata? I am seriously considering these over keeping my Toyota Cops Setup.

Also where would I get the plug wires from that would work in a Miata with them?
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 10:47 AM
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We had some custom Magnecors made for ours.

Chances are if we release a bolt-on bracket for these coils, it will not look like what we put in Jerry's car. That setup was OK for testing things out, but not exactly something we'd feel good about selling.
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt Cramer
We had some custom Magnecors made for ours.

Chances are if we release a bolt-on bracket for these coils, it will not look like what we put in Jerry's car. That setup was OK for testing things out, but not exactly something we'd feel good about selling.
Release a PNP kit, and put me on the list.

for a 94 running diypnp.
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt Cramer
We had some custom Magnecors made for ours.

Chances are if we release a bolt-on bracket for these coils, it will not look like what we put in Jerry's car. That setup was OK for testing things out, but not exactly something we'd feel good about selling.
So does this mean you are seriously considering making a "kit" for the Miata? I am seriously considering ordering these, but my fabrication skills are less then amazing. If there was a nearly PNP solution I would be one of the first to buy it.

Basically the only thing keeping me from ordering them now is I have no clue how to mount them and that I have no clue what spark plug wires I would need or where to even start researching that information.
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 05:16 PM
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I could really use a kit because my fabrication skills are um well just see my build thread :|
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Old May 16, 2010 | 01:24 PM
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Guys could you give some tips on what wires to get? Do we just call up Magnecor and say I need a wire this length with these _________________ specs?

What are those specs
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In for updates if you ever come up with a solution for my 9093.
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 09:41 PM
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Bracket ever happen?
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