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Old 12-01-2010, 04:55 PM   #41
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Since I drive the car as a DD, for the most part, having more low-end torque is much more enjoyable than useless top-end, especially when I don't want to breach 250rwhp. So a larger turbo will have less low-end grunt and a smaller underpowered powerband.
Well said and good to know. I needed talked out of fixing something that ain't broke. It's not typically in my nature to futz with things that are working perfectly, especially when I'm not too keen on getting to the point of breaking driveline components. It's just too damn tempting with these cheap turbos. Thanks again for the info.
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My problem is I drive a bunch of local 1.8L setups that make massive TQ down low and it's just so much fun. While having top-end has it's benefits as well, I personally like to max out as much as the curve as I possible can within my ceiling.

I've always been making around 230-240 for years and years, but this is the best the car has ever felt since I'm making over 40 more rear wheel torque at 4K. I might have sacrificed some power over 6K, but I'm hardly up that high and I'm not drag racing either.
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You don't want too much torque down low. My FE3T setup made 290 ft/lbs around 4300 rpms and fell flat after that with only 265 hp to hold it up. The tune needed alot of work but it was running out of fuel. It wasn't very fun to drive because I would hit peak power really quick and still have 3000 rpms to go on a curve that took a nose dive. I blame it on the tune though.
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My problem is I drive a bunch of local 1.8L setups that make massive TQ down low and it's just so much fun. While having top-end has it's benefits as well, I personally like to max out as much as the curve as I possible can within my ceiling.

I've always been making around 230-240 for years and years, but this is the best the car has ever felt since I'm making over 40 more rear wheel torque at 4K. I might have sacrificed some power over 6K, but I'm hardly up that high and I'm not drag racing either.
Lowend torque is great.
Makes the car feel like a small v8, so easy and effortless acceleration.
If you daily the car and rarely "stretch its legs" so to speak, its hands down a winner.
I'm honestly surprised you haven't gone 1.8 ages ago. They're really cheap and easy, and you of all people could pull off a swap in a weeknight.

Since you replaced your shortblock what like 3 times now? Why haven't you upgraded all this time?

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You don't want too much torque down low. My FE3T setup made 290 ft/lbs around 4300 rpms and fell flat after that with only 265 hp to hold it up. The tune needed alot of work but it was running out of fuel. It wasn't very fun to drive because I would hit peak power really quick and still have 3000 rpms to go on a curve that took a nose dive. I blame it on the tune though.
Unless you plummeted your timing and went pig rich up top for some insanely retarded reason, I highly doubt it was all about your tune.
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Probably never swapped because he always had another bottom end ready to go. The current one was out of my old car when I swapped in the semi built motor that I pwnt after the dyno day if I remember correctly. His was on its last leg with mysteriously disappearing oil, rican style, and I just happened to be getting rid of a good to go bottom end.
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Probably never swapped because he always had another bottom end ready to go. The current one was out of my old car when I swapped in the semi built motor that I pwnt after the dyno day if I remember correctly. His was on its last leg with mysteriously disappearing oil, rican style, and I just happened to be getting rid of a good to go bottom end.
You also left out the part where scott is a jew and is to cheap to buy a 1.8 manifold and downpipe.
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Yes, I do even recall him saying words almost like that as well. Probably even using that very adjective.
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Took the words right out of my mouth he did. I got more important things to spend money on...like welfare checks.
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how much power you guys think i can get form t his turbo? i bought the same one and i have a 99. looking to be boosted within the next 2 months or so.
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