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curly 07-18-2012 08:07 PM

Artech 1.6 at 10 psi
 
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After helping a friend with some MS tuning on the dyno, apparently the "boss" was gone for the day, so I got two free runs on the dyno. Only changed boost, from 9psi to 10.5psi ish. Dyno and data logs below. I'm not terribly happy, but whatevers, I'll work on it.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1342656433

First, 165kpa log datalog:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1342656433

2nd, 174kpa run:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1342656433

Hmm, setup is pretty much in my signature, 3" downpipe choked down to a 2.5" cat and 2.5 crush bent exhaust, unknown health on the engine, hopefully the compression is higher than my boost.

Comments welcome, not sure where to go from here...the shop did name their dyno "dream crusher".

18psi 07-18-2012 08:11 PM

ouch...

soviet 07-18-2012 08:14 PM

you look like you're running *decent* amount of timing...
is your timing synchronized correctly?

mgeoffriau 07-18-2012 08:20 PM

Wow. Not what I expected. Is this a Greddy turbo?

curly 07-18-2012 08:24 PM

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SR20 T25.

I should double check both the timing belt and the timing light thingy, I just redid them and they were pretty spot on. Doesn't hurt to check. Timing map:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1342657498

18psi 07-18-2012 08:35 PM

timing map looks good

curly 07-18-2012 08:44 PM

I don't like this dyno.

Faeflora 07-18-2012 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 904982)
timing map looks good

Explain.

That is some limp dick weaksauce timing for 10psi.

It still doesn't explain the 50hp gap between dyno'd hp and what it should be at.

hustler 07-18-2012 10:15 PM

Did the guy running the dyno have the right correction values in? If the engine is healthy, the exhaust is 3", then you should have made 50-75whp more.

hustler 07-18-2012 10:20 PM

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Edit:
I changed my mind, don't load that table. Did you hit MBT?

Faeflora 07-18-2012 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 905012)
Edit:
I changed my mind, don't load that table. Did you hit MBT?

Come on. Unless he shaved his head a foot he is like 6* away from MBT

18psi 07-19-2012 12:07 AM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 904995)
Explain.

That is some limp dick weaksauce timing for 10psi.

It still doesn't explain the 50hp gap between dyno'd hp and what it should be at.

Not sure about how good your gayz gas is, but over here besides e85 we only have CA 91 camel piss. On said camel piss 14-16* is about the max I'd run @ peak tapering up to about 18-19* at redline depending on turbo and setup.

More timing and the engine pulls a Faeflora

If you have 93 and its good quality, then nevermind

Faeflora 07-19-2012 01:16 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 905043)
Not sure about how good your gayz gas is, but over here besides e85 we only have CA 91 camel piss. On said camel piss 14-16* is about the max I'd run @ peak tapering up to about 18-19* at redline depending on turbo and setup.

More timing and the engine pulls a Faeflora

If you have 93 and its good quality, then nevermind

Ah, wow, ok. That explains your subaru timing map too.

I have no experience tuning CA 91.

sturovo 07-19-2012 01:36 AM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 904974)
dyno "dream crusher".

update your sig? I am only 157....

Braineack 07-19-2012 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 904978)
Wow. Not what I expected. Is this a Greddy turbo?

exactly what I expected considering his exhaust setup.

curly 07-19-2012 08:32 AM

Yeah, that non hi-flow cat and 2.5 isnt helping.

I'm running 93 octane all the time.

Hustler showed me his timing map and I split the difference between his and diy's ultra conservative base map. Should I go for something more aggressive? Playing with the timing with the NA car certainly showed what timing changes can do, it really liked 30*. I wanna be pretty safe though.

Braineack 07-19-2012 08:33 AM

will adding timing decrease your backpressure?

curly 07-19-2012 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 905011)
Did the guy running the dyno have the right correction values in? If the engine is healthy, the exhaust is 3", then you should have made 50-75whp more.

Not 3", see above.

18psi 07-19-2012 08:37 AM

You need to listen to teh Brainz and increase VE instead of ramping up timing on a constipated setup. 3" all the way would be a good start. Then you can bump up timing another 6* like Fae is suggesting without much ill effect

Should pick up a large chunk of power

curly 07-19-2012 08:43 AM

I'll keep that in mind, i also know how much choked. Exhaust adds heat, I wonder if I should be looking at my cat for cloggage. It's pretty old.


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