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Old Aug 15, 2013 | 10:27 AM
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That's the problem with these cars, I think they feel faster than they really are due to their size and ride height. I think the turbo miata's strong suit, besides road racing, is from a roll.
Yep. Heard that.

A 250whp Miata feels pretty damn fast when driven hard. But it's really just... "quick" at best.

Which is fine, it's all about how much fun you're having.
Old Aug 15, 2013 | 10:32 AM
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your msm with its baby snail would probably run a 14 something at like 90 something. Definitely won't trap 100 or higher

and yes of course they feel faster than they are, but who cares. its a ton of fun regardless
Old Aug 15, 2013 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 18psi
your msm with its baby snail would probably run a 14 something at like 90 something. Definitely won't trap 100 or higher

and yes of course they feel faster than they are, but who cares. its a ton of fun regardless
I feel like we should make a friendly bet on this.
Old Aug 15, 2013 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 18psi
your msm with its baby snail would probably run a 14 something at like 90 something. Definitely won't trap 100 or higher

and yes of course they feel faster than they are, but who cares. its a ton of fun regardless
This is what too many people overlook. It's not all about hard numbers, these cars are just plain fun.
Old Aug 15, 2013 | 10:49 AM
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Yeah.
You can always drop coin and actually make em fast, obviously, but in my opinion it gets so expensive past 350-400 that you may as well go to a more suited platform if you want to do drag/street racing.

Of course there are exceptions
Old Aug 15, 2013 | 11:37 AM
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I was hoping to hit high 12's with my car when it's "done" engine and drivetrain wise.
Old Aug 15, 2013 | 12:26 PM
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/\Yeah, me too.

I definitely love both the looks and handling of the car, and on the street, the power is pretty respectable. It's a fun car to build and drive.

I saw dcvn? running 12's on stock motor and figured I could get close to those numbers but...no. Not yet anyway.
Old Aug 15, 2013 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by flounder
/\Yeah, me too.

I definitely love both the looks and handling of the car, and on the street, the power is pretty respectable. It's a fun car to build and drive.

I saw dcvn? running 12's on stock motor and figured I could get close to those numbers but...no. Not yet anyway.
That's gonna be driver mod and power TYPICALLY associated with blowing stock motors.
Old Aug 15, 2013 | 12:35 PM
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I'm looking forward to Dem running his out here when its back to form. I'll bet he touches 11's with 400+ and good driving skills. Is that car up and running again yet?
Old Aug 15, 2013 | 12:54 PM
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Kinda sorta, he's told me a little bit about it through text. And he sends me pictures of parts he's putting on it. But i'm not sure until he officially posts something about it.
Old Aug 15, 2013 | 01:09 PM
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What tires are you running, all seasons or snow tires? Those short times are pathetic.

That's bush league.
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Bryan is going to not just touch 11's, but should be in the low 11's with that car
Old Aug 15, 2013 | 02:02 PM
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Still waiting for him to buy a set of slicks. I want to see a 1.4s 60'.
Old Aug 15, 2013 | 02:59 PM
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bfg rivals 205/50/15.

Now that I had a closer look at the 14psi run, you notice that from 1000ft to 1320ft my mph stayed at 95 due to the clutch slipping halfway through fourth. In the other run at 10psi, I picked up 9mph from the 1000ft mark to the 1320 since the clutch held up ok at that boost level.

I think if the clutch would of held up at 14psi I could have trapped over 100 for sure and probably would of seen 13.9 or better, even with that shitty 60ft.

IDK, enough with all this desktop racing, I just ordered the FM stage 2, and I'm gonna start piecing together parts to convert over to a return fuel system and up the boost.

Hopefully if I can find the time, I'll make another trip out there before the season ends.
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Old Aug 15, 2013 | 03:25 PM
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Looking forward to great success. Any idea how Rivals prefer to be treated at the strip (e.g. some pre-heat, no pre-heat, lots of heat, etc)? Did you adjust tire pressure at all?
Old Aug 15, 2013 | 03:45 PM
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To be honest, I didn't change anything with the tires or suspension before hand, I didn't even do any burnouts prior to staging. I didn't notice any wheelspin either, but I didn't brake boost at all. I just held revs at 4k and slipped the clutch off the starting line. I know there is more in this car as it sits, but it needs the clutch asap. Tire pressure was 30psi f/r

The clutch I have now is supposed to be rated for 290ftlbs at the flywheel, I seriously doubt I exceeded that even at 14lbs. It was installed correctly and the flywheel got resurfaced before it all went back together last winter. F1 clutches are ****.
Old Aug 15, 2013 | 05:21 PM
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Yeah, i doubt that as well. Don't be sad about the times, just fix it and go back so you can get an actual baseline. Do you have any 3rd/4th gear logs on a straight road so we can run your car through virtual dyno?
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I'll only get to run 1/8th mile in two weeks but I'm hoping for the 1/4 equivalent of a 12.3. It's at least my goal. Should have a chance.

302 V8 at 279WHP/308TQ
T5 trans with King Cobra clutch
8.8 rear with 3.73's
Brand new (but a year old) 205/50/15 MT ET Street drag radials on 15x8 6ULs

For suspension setup I'm thinking setting the Tein Flex full soft in the rear to start, fairly firm in the front and will stiffen up the rear as needed. Thoughts?
Old Aug 15, 2013 | 06:51 PM
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You'll love that stage 2, i bought one after using the stage one for a while.

I made MULTIPLE hot passes at Milan during a 95F day launching and flat footing and the clutch loved every minute of it.

Seriously, go faster than me. You HAVE to, and with a good clutch i have no doubts you will.


Because desktop racing.
Old Aug 15, 2013 | 06:57 PM
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I'm a long way removed from drag racing so take the following as being worth what you paid me for it:

Originally Posted by Stein
For suspension setup I'm thinking setting the Tein Flex full soft in the rear to start, fairly firm in the front and will stiffen up the rear as needed. Thoughts?
That sounds reasonable. The one thing I would watch on the rear dampers is to try and avoid "porpoising" where you get a lot of bounce in the rear end. I'm not talking about rapid shudder or wheel hop, but more that you get so much squat and then so much release-of-that-squat on power transfer (like shifts) that you get big shocks to the tires or drivetrain.

That ties in to your "stiffen the rear as needed."



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