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250Hp on a stock B6 (1600cc Engine)
12.88%
300Hp on a stock B6 (1600cc Engine)
0
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250hp on a stock 94-97 BP Engine (1800cc Engine)
12.88%
300hp on a stock 94-97 BP Engine (1800cc Engine)
1.52%
250hp on a stock 99-00/Mazdaspeed BP Engine (1800cc Engine)
6.06%
300hp on a stock 99-00/Mazdaspeed BP Engine (1800cc Engine)
3.79%
250hp on a stock 01-05 BP/vvt Engine (1800cc Engine)
5.30%
300hp on a stock 01-05 BP/vvt Engine (1800cc Engine)
1.52%
Make over 350Hp on my Stock Engine!
0.76%
I make less than 250hp on my stock engine. WIMP!
55.30%
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Old May 14, 2008 | 09:38 PM
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Bone stock 2000.

Hydra, 2560, 7200RPM

Old May 14, 2008 | 09:53 PM
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240 hp @ hubs, Greddy'd 1.6

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Old May 14, 2008 | 10:09 PM
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'92 motor... taken from a granny-driven 258k mile car... stock internals.
SR20det T25
Megaquirt (standalone by Brain)

Last dyno made 200whp/185ftlbs.

Since then, I've swapped to COPS and added 6* of timing across the board. Feels a bit faster now and only running 12psi daily. Butt dyno says I'm making 200whp@12psi.

Problem is my T25 spikes to around 14.5psi and settles to about 12psi at redline. I've bumped up the EBC a lot and it just won't hold the boost up high. Could be a wastegate or flow issue... but if the damn thing would hold 14psi to redline, it's make 220whp or so. My 2.25" Borlas don't help.

Every day this motor continues to run is a blessing from the Boost God.

Attached is my last run... actually hit 202whp on the previous run, but this one had the final "tune" on it. Bumpy AFR in the midrange was a product of a poorly tuned Accel Enrichment table... current datalogs show board-straight AFR's through there.
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Old May 15, 2008 | 02:58 AM
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Me....about the # same as Sam using a hybrid Greddy kit.
Old Jul 28, 2008 | 02:52 PM
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271 @ the wheels ... but it lasted only about 4 years lol


stock 1.6L
BEGI cast manifold
Ford SVO T3
3" DP / full exhaust
Custom IC
Tec II
RC 500's
Vishnu Rail


Here comes the new rods/pistons
Old Jul 28, 2008 | 03:19 PM
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Looking at this poll, over 51% of us here are wimps...no wonder they think we is gayz!!!
Old Jul 28, 2008 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Marc@M-Tuned.com
I made 360hp on a stock 95 BP and ran it for 8 months like that.

Was using a custom Turbo setup with a T3/T4 50 Trim. 18-19psi.
3" Exhaust
FJO 341B ECU (Also did the same on a TECII)
Max RPM was 7650. More and I would blow Oil pumps.

Trying to decide how much I want to push my 2000 Engine with the Megasquirt. I don't like swapping motors when I have a car with A/C, PS, ABS etc..
Were you running meth? Was that the stock throttle body and intake manifold? Did your rings eventually go bad?
Old Jul 28, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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No Meth! Stock T-Body and Intake for part of it and BEGI and 70mm for another part. Most was stock Intake! Rings never went bad, I sold the engine to a local guy running good!
Old Jul 28, 2008 | 06:08 PM
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Marc, was that dyno on pump gas? (110 from a pump doesn't count )
Old Jul 28, 2008 | 06:15 PM
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Sunoco 94
Old Jul 28, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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Awesome. That dyno makes me feel better about the BP internals
Old Jul 29, 2008 | 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Marc@M-Tuned.com
Sunoco 94
Marc,

It would be easy to extrapolate that you could hit 400rwhp with a NB 1.8 motor (given its far better head and cams) if you ran the same intake, turbo setup & boost and exhaust as your 1995 1.8. However, I don't know if the better flowing NB head will make up for the fact that the '00 motor has higher static compression than the NA motor (per Randy @ Solo Miata, '95 was 8.8 compression vs. 9.5 for '00) and is probably less tolerant of both boost and timing when you exceed 12 psi. If your engine management system can SAFELY log knock counts, you can do some optimization runs (third gear pulls on "safe" roads or 4th gear on a chassis dyno) to see if less boost (15psi with more timing) gives more usable street power than more boost (18psi with less timing).

Then again, it's relatively easy to run a 50/50 water/methanol system that will allow you to run 18-19psi of boost with "good" timing. It may be pain to keep re-filling the meth container but detonation (stock Miata ring lands and rods quickly expire when detonation occurs at high boost) won't be a problem and your street tires should enough of a "fuse" to protect the stock trans and rearend for normal street driving.
Old Jul 29, 2008 | 03:10 PM
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I'll post in a week or two when my car gets tuned with the AEM EMS. Hoping for 270-280whp on the stock motor.
Old Jul 29, 2008 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ray_sir_6
I'll post in a week or two when my car gets tuned with the AEM EMS. Hoping for 270-280whp on the stock motor.
Hey Ray,

Looking forward to seeing another strong 1.6 motor! Which TD04 variant are you running on your Greddy setup and with how much boost???
Old Jul 29, 2008 | 09:10 PM
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never dynoed mine, because i don't give a damn
Old Jul 29, 2008 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Marc@M-Tuned.com
Sorry.... I disagree Our engines are built for a ton of power. Every Miata needs 250hp. I miss my old 350+ setup like mad.

WIMP!!
I made 214HP @ 12 psi (well... spiked to 12 psi and settled at 10psi). That was with the god awful crush bent 2.25" exhaust. With the 3", new BEGi downpipe, dual feed fuel rail (yours), coolant re-route, and a few other tricks... I anticipate making 260 or so, but will detune it to slightly under 250 to protect the trans until I can get a 6 speed (it's my only car).

Once I get a 6 speed and build my spare block I plan to upgrade the compressor and see how much power I can make on the stock head/block before it pops.
Old Jul 30, 2008 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by sn95
Hey Ray,

Looking forward to seeing another strong 1.6 motor! Which TD04 variant are you running on your Greddy setup and with how much boost???
The stock Greddy one, with a water/meth injection kit. Probably run 19-20psi, max effeciency on the 15G is 24, so should be fine.
Old Sep 17, 2008 | 03:30 AM
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Stock 94 1.8 block
151,000 original miles
51,000 boosted miles
Begi manifold/dp
GT2560R @ 15 psi's
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Well, got the car on the road and running WG 5.5psi with a safe tune right now.

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A/F is hovering around 10.8-11:1. We'll get it closer to 11.5:1 when we hook up the boost controller and turn up the boost. I am still amazed that I got almost 190whp from 5.5psi, without even touching the cam gears. My tuner said we could probably play with the cam gear and get it up to 200whp. We'll worry about that when we get the boost turned up, which might happen tonight. :P
Old Nov 21, 2008 | 11:32 AM
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might as well update:

311hp/260ftlbs on stock 99 motor.



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