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ericsbestshot 01-06-2015 04:34 PM

alternator control
 
Just to make sure, this is only for MS3 and not yet available for diypnp, right?

Ben 01-06-2015 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by ericsbestshot (Post 1194201)
Just to make sure, this is only for MS3 and not yet available for diypnp, right?

Only MS3 and will never be available for DIYPNP (hardware limitations).

ericsbestshot 01-06-2015 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 1194245)
Only MS3 and will never be available for DIYPNP (hardware limitations).

I'm so jelly of the ms3 guys. I guess i'll have to stick with my alternator circuit.

Ben 01-20-2015 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1193955)
oh i didn't notice the loss sync. thanks, that helps figure it out.

i build the unit, I'm not running it personally.

New firmware released to address voltage spike issue at sync loss:
Megasquirt Support Forum (MSEXTRA) ? MS3 pre-1.4 beta 10 released (View topic)

Zaphod 01-21-2015 02:22 AM

Hi Ben,

I have the Alternator control running pretty well with my MS3pro Module on Franks Adpater board.

This new Beta got me thinking about the meaning of the Inverted vs. normal setting.
What does that mean and what setting are you using? (INverted as me I guess...)

Ben 02-06-2015 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 1198587)
New firmware released to address voltage spike issue at sync loss:
Megasquirt Support Forum (MSEXTRA) ? MS3 pre-1.4 beta 10 released (View topic)

Braineack, Did this firmware resolve your alternator problem?

HHammerly 02-11-2015 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 1194245)
Only MS3 and will never be available for DIYPNP (hardware limitations).

MegaSquirtPNP Pro MM0105 for the 01-05 Mazda Miata, manual trans DIYAutoTune.com

MS3 PNP PRO ???

Matt Cramer 02-16-2015 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by HHammerly (Post 1205210)

Yep - now available for '90-'93, '94-'95, and '01-'05 with a separate option for the Mazdaspeed. '99-'00 is up next. For those swapping an NB engine into an NA, any one of them will support the NB alternator control, just takes some minor wiring changes on an NA.

Braineack 02-16-2015 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 1203624)
Braineack, Did this firmware resolve your alternator problem?

I'll have to check and see with the user. He hasn't emailed back about anymore trouble...

ChrisSTR 03-17-2015 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by ericsbestshot (Post 1194269)
I'm so jelly of the ms3 guys. I guess i'll have to stick with my alternator circuit.

I've got the JasonC circuit in my DIYPNP and it works great.

I've got AC idle up worked out, the only oddity is when I turn on the headlights the idle dips about 100rpm. Wondering if this would influence performance under WOT?

Would this update address that issue? (were I to upgrade unit)

Braineack 03-17-2015 07:24 PM

tune your voltage idle pwm% compensation table and turn on adaptive timing.

ChrisSTR 03-17-2015 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1215878)
tune your voltage idle pwm% compensation table and turn on adaptive timing.

Thanks, i'll give that a look.

y8s 03-18-2015 09:19 AM

it's not a voltage issue, it's a MAP issue. I bet your volts don't move when you turn on the headlights, but the extra draw on the alternator makes the engine speed sag.

Leafy 06-02-2017 10:27 PM

Bumping old post because its relevant to me, since the mazda 3 2 wire alternator seems to be electrically identical to the NB one. The MS3P manual says using a spark output is ok for the miata. That is correct and supersedes the info in this thread right? Also does it connect to the P or D wire? Manual says P and D sounds like it stands for Diagnostic but reading the FSM it makes it seem like D is the one connected to the power transistor and its the line you're supposed to scope to make sure the factory ECU is working right. Looking at how the alternator is wired I guess it can't hurt to try it either way till it works. Annoying that the mazda wiring diagram that shows you which wire does what doesnt show which connector pin it is and the one that says P and D on the connector doesnt show wire colors or what it does.


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