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Old May 2, 2014 | 10:16 AM
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I've been running with an MTX-L for about 2 years now, and it's always been a little "jumpy". It rapidly fluctuates about ±.4 tenths at idle, and about ±2 tenths of a point while running. For example, in boost if my target AFR is 13.5, It will rapidly fluctuate between 13.3 and 13.7. I always assumed this was normal based on seeing some Youtube videos and a few other Miatas.

Last night, I was driving my buddies FD doing a first run after a rebuild, and his MTX-L was dead nuts on target. No fluctuation whatsoever. At idle, it stuck exactly where it was supposed to, with an rare .1 spike. When driving, it was smooth and on target. I question if it had to do with the tune, as we had just loaded a base map and were tuning cells as we drove.

Is this just a difference in the cars or is there something in LM programmer that can change how quickly it operates? I would love for my gauge to be as silky smooth as his was.
Old May 2, 2014 | 10:19 AM
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What is the difference between where your friends sensor is mounted in the exhaust stream and yours?
Old May 2, 2014 | 10:23 AM
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His FD stock ecu or MS like you?

You can mess with the settings to make MS react faster or slower, but overall that sounds pretty normal.
Old May 2, 2014 | 10:31 AM
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He's running an adaptronic. My Sensor is about halfway between the cat and the turbo outlet flange, not sure where his is located.
Old May 2, 2014 | 10:36 AM
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Sounds like you just need to tune your car better
Old May 2, 2014 | 10:38 AM
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Lulz, that's what I figured. It's just that his is the only one I've ever seen run that smoothly.
Old May 2, 2014 | 10:55 AM
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is yours setup to output 10-20:1 or 7.35-22.4:1?
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7.35-22.4:1.
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I've never seen an Innovate wideband display steady either, unless at WOT full boost.

Cruising and idling on all my cars is a constant back and forth of .2-.6.
Old May 3, 2014 | 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by concealer404
I've never seen an Innovate wideband display steady either, unless at WOT full boost.

Cruising and idling on all my cars is a constant back and forth of .2-.6.
Because poverty DB gauges.

LC-1 + XD16:

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Never used a DB gauge, and wouldn't gauge display be dependent on controller anyways?
Old May 3, 2014 | 01:59 PM
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I know that with the LC-1 you can program the output update rate. At slower settings the readings are averaged and the gauge is steadier. Maybe this is available on the MTX-L too?
Old May 3, 2014 | 05:05 PM
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And what is the secret to have a steady AFR with the MTX-L? Mine is not really stable.. But okay. Even during cruise it fluctuate 0.3 up and down
Old May 3, 2014 | 10:16 PM
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The secret is having a proper tune.

Also anyone trying to get the gauge to "slow down" and start "averaging out" the display or output is borderline retarded. That's the only thing that is GOOD about the MTX-L pretty much, its fast and precise reading.
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Proper injectors and proper tune.
Old May 4, 2014 | 09:29 PM
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I'm sure proper tune has a lot to do with it, but I have been running mine for a little over a year and it sounds like yours, all over the place it seems.

I am running the stock ECU with a fuel card.

Just this week I installed a new sensor, but this time installed a heat sink. Don't know if the sensor made the difference or the heat sink. I tend to think it was the heat sink.

It is much more stable now.
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