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Old 06-17-2013, 09:57 AM   #1
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Hey,

I would like to get some input on my spark table:



I still use my original clutch, it holds, on the dyno it did 170-180wbhp @ 10psi
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Can you describe the strategy behind it?
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Clearly the strategy behind it is to have the largest jumps in timing from cell to cell as possible.
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It's a road tune made by a guy I paid.

The things I don't like are the map is upto 300kpa while the car makes around 200kpa and less and it looks to much pf a mess...

I don't fill I can tune it myself so I went to a dyno close by, this is the bhp and boost chart I got:



I think I will give the dyno guy to tune this map, I want to know how much off is it...
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Its terrible.

Seriously.

Start over completely.
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Just did:



The fuel does not allow further spark advance with out knock...

I will change to 98 octane (Israel octane that is) and get a 2.5" exhaust over my stock one.

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33 degrees of timing? Interesting.
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Old 07-02-2013, 05:27 AM   #8
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Can you explain ?
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at 2-3k at 10psi theres no way you should be at 27-28ish degrees of timing.. . Just no. Also update the rest of ur map.. if ur wastegate gets stuck closed u're fucked. Way too much timing so you'll for sure **** up your motor.

30 degrees of timing at 1500rpm? LoL. Betcha the main bearings are crying so hard they can't knock.
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I believe you are referring to the first map... and I believe you are right.

The new map is just a post above you. (all @ 12psi~)
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You only posted 1 map.
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lol thats even worse man, 30 degrees at redline at 10 psi? I wouldnt run that much spark even on e85.
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12psi
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are you really running 98 octane or 98 ron?

I can't imagine running that much timing on a stock block without it blowing up, especially coupled with what it seems to be a stock exhaust and a tiny turbo.

If you upgrade the exhaust you will unlock significant power...but don't stop at 3".

But I also think you're walking a thin line...
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12psi... even worse.... especially since you dyno tuned at 18 degrees.
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Could be the base timing is off ?

I have the last beta fw for my MS, the last base timing calibration we did was on the previous fw version.
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no, that stays the same. FWIW, I can't get away with more than 18 timing at 14-15psi; running 93 octane.

your map is pretty much 10 more advanced than mine everywhere and I have a larger turbo and a better flowing exhaust.
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Wouldn't hurt to double check it...
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That's what we got, any more sparks and knock is at the door.
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