Singular Motorsports ECU Brackets
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Posting a teaser, just finished the final version up and we'll have these available very shortly.
ECU Bracket for the 90-93 miata Update: for sale! Singular Motorsports Miata ECU Bracket for Miata 1990-1993
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1413621760 We feel these are overdue - the factory ECU mounts in a protected area in the footwell, but this location has no flat area to offer a good DIY mounting area, and the ECU wiring length limits your options for how far you can move it. We've seen some seriously poor excuses for mounts simply due to the lack of a good solution. This bracket places your aftermarket ECU in the stock location under the factory kick plate. The hole patterns included in the bracket cover most of the popular ECUs for our cars. Here is the prototype installed with the kick plate cover removed: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1413621760 Will update with a link as soon as these are in stock! |
are you working on anything for the 99+?
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99+ for the Rev MS3 Basic (huge) without straining the OEM harness?
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Oregonmon needs one of these! Yes yes yes!
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Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1176606)
are you working on anything for the 99+?
These ECUs cost a substantial amount of money. DIY Autotune's mounting "tips" suggest zip ties and sheet metal screws for lack of a better solution. Unacceptable in our opinion. Most other ECU mfgs just avoid the topic all together. :vash: -Ryan |
Please in mind that the 99+ versions have the Antilock brake module on the right side of that space...
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Thanks for pointing that out as my '99 does not have ABS. Will keep that in mind.
-Ryan |
A good way to dampen vibration is to put some rubber isolators between the mount and the chassis (or the ecu and the mount).
I never cared for the whole zip ties and screws method. |
Originally Posted by ThePass
(Post 1176649)
Thanks for pointing that out as my '99 does not have ABS. Will keep that in mind.
-Ryan
Originally Posted by vintagerust
(Post 1176651)
A good way to dampen vibration is to put some rubber isolators between the mount and the chassis (or the ecu and the mount).
I never cared for the whole zip ties and screws method. |
Yeah it really surprises me that an $800+ ecu never even entertained the idea that someone might want to mount it properly, you know, not with big zip ties just hanging there like a dingleberry
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So what about a Rev box? They don't have any flanges sticking out, so the only real option is zip ties. I suppose the easiest solution would be zip tying it through one of the hole patterns on the bracket?
Also, any idea on price? |
Originally Posted by curly
(Post 1176682)
So what about a Rev box? They don't have any flanges sticking out, so the only real option is zip ties. I suppose the easiest solution would be zip tying it through one of the hole patterns on the bracket?
Mine is wrapped in metal strapping which is bolted to a A-frame made from scrap alu strips. The whole contraption is then bolted to the stock three places. But better design would make less strain on the harness and the connectors on the other side (it's big and the ABS makes it impossible(?) to mount sideways). Damn you Ryan, now there is yet another thing I have to be ashamed for... :) |
90-93 ECU Bracket is available!
Singular Motorsports Miata ECU Bracket for Miata 1990-1993 Sounds like I should get to work on the '99+ version :party:
Originally Posted by NiklasFalk
(Post 1176689)
Damn you Ryan, now there is yet another thing I have to be ashamed for... :)
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I just mounted mine in the glovebox :dunno:
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We've done that in the past too. Better solution than sheet metal screws into the car, but I'm still not personally a fan of cutting up the glove box and losing storage space in a DD/street car. I've also seen more than once MAP lines getting pinched from opening/closing the glove box and then having running issues.
This allows for the cleanest bolt-on install, eliminates headaches, and has no impact on the limited storage space in the car. -Ryan |
Originally Posted by ThePass
(Post 1176697)
We've done that in the past too. Better solution than sheet metal screws into the car, but I'm still not personally a fan of cutting up the glove box and losing storage space in a DD/street car. I've also seen more than once MAP lines getting pinched from opening/closing the glove box and then having running issues.
This allows for the cleanest bolt-on install, eliminates headaches, and has no impact on the limited storage space in the car. -Ryan -Sean |
I must be an idiot because I don't understand how you could get the factory kick plate to fit over this? I'm out of town right now so I can't take any photos, but my Rev MS2 is a tight fit between the floor and the kick plate. With this bracket jacking the whole thing up a few inches I can't see how you could bolt the protective kick plate over it.
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Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1176674)
Yeah it really surprises me that an $800+ ecu never even entertained the idea that someone might want to mount it properly, you know, not with big zip ties just hanging there like a dingleberry
Maybe its ok to add $150 if the ECU costs $2,000 to begin with, however I don't see it happening on a $500-$900 ECU. I would rather add $150 of awesome features rather than brackets. |
Originally Posted by akbloom
(Post 1176780)
I must be an idiot because I don't understand how you could get the factory kick plate to fit over this? I'm out of town right now so I can't take any photos, but my Rev MS2 is a tight fit between the floor and the kick plate. With this bracket jacking the whole thing up a few inches I can't see how you could bolt the protective kick plate over it.
Look at the installed pic in the first post. The kick plate fits over that. MSPNP, MS3 Pro, AEM EMS-4 and Adaptronic all fit under there using this bracket. I can't speak for Reverent's ECUs because I don't have one on hand nor do I have measurements. Since the Rev boxes don't have mounting tabs, designing an add-on piece to bolt them to the bracket would just be a matter of getting one in my hands for a day. -Ryan |
Originally Posted by ThePass
(Post 1176812)
The bracket doesn't 'jack' it up at all. There are only millimeters of clearance to the floor, and the bracket itself is very slim. The placement is carefully set for clearance in all areas by nesting it in the deepest pocket of the footwell and setting it an at angle that is parallel with the kick plate surface instead of the floor surface.
Look at the installed pic in the first post. The kick plate fits over that. MSPNP, MS3 Pro, AEM EMS-4 and Adaptronic all fit under there using this bracket. I can't speak for Reverent's ECUs because I don't have one on hand nor do I have measurements. Since the Rev boxes don't have mounting tabs, designing an add-on piece to bolt them to the bracket would just be a matter of getting one in my hands for a day. -Ryan |
Ryan I can grab some measurements next time it's in my hands. Vlad has one too currently.
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After staring at the pic some more, what I assumed was a vertical lift of a few inches is actually a diagonal jog to the left! That makes much more sense. As soon as I get back to the states I'm ordering two of these.
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Originally Posted by akbloom
(Post 1176815)
Please don't take my comment as criticism, I'm actually very interested in buying one of these. Maybe it's an optical illusion? Would you mind snapping a few more photos of the bracket both installed and on it's own from a few more angles?
I won't be able to get additional pics for a few days at least, but I'll see what I can do.
Originally Posted by akbloom
(Post 1176819)
After staring at the pic some more, what I assumed was a vertical lift of a few inches is actually a diagonal jog to the left! That makes much more sense. As soon as I get back to the states I'm ordering two of these.
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Why did you do this angle to the right anyway and didn't use the left and 2nd left mounting screw like the OEM bracket does? That would make it an 90-05 bracket I guess...
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Originally Posted by curly
(Post 1176817)
Ryan I can grab some measurements next time it's in my hands. Vlad has one too currently.
I have an idea already for a simple add-on for a Rev ECU to adapt it to the bracket. Would just need precise measurements. -Ryan |
Originally Posted by Zaphod
(Post 1176823)
Why did you do this angle to the right anyway and didn't use the left and 2nd left mounting screw like the OEM bracket does? That would make it an 90-05 bracket I guess...
Over where you are, I believe they kept the ECU in the footwell for nearly all years yes? In the states, they are only in this location from 90-93, then they move. 94-97 is behind the passenger seat, 99+ is under the dash. Because I don't exactly have any EU cars here, I can't have easily known what similarities/differences existed across the years in your case. -Ryan |
Ah I see, I will take some pictures of my EU car tomorrow for reference purposes ...
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Originally Posted by ThePass
(Post 1176825)
This would be great. No intention to leave Rev ECUs out on this, it just didn't fall into the list of ECUs which come with integrated mounting tabs.
-Ryan |
I hear you Dimitris.
It wasn't an attack at you specifically, since DIY and pretty much anyone else selling these either doesn't have tabs on the cases or has dinky little ones meant for zip ties only or something. I just can't imagine that whoever is making these cases can't integrate at least something we can work with. Anyways, I've already "solved" my mounting problem ;) But can provide dimensions or input on anything you guys need. |
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1176606)
are you working on anything for the 99+?
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Hmmm I want to throw my money at this but I also have a DIYBOB addon board on my MS3x, which looks like it may be hard to mount on the bracket as well.
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Originally Posted by Jeffbucc
(Post 1176879)
Hmmm I want to throw my money at this but I also have a DIYBOB addon board on my MS3x, which looks like it may be hard to mount on the bracket as well.
-Sean Singular Motorsports |
WTB: brackets that install themselves along with the ecu so I don't have to remove my seat, go upside down with my calves on the roll bar, and get cramps in my obliques contorting my head and arms under the dash.
Ryan you can do it. |
I'm reading that as you'd like to be able to mount the ECU to the bracket outside of the car and then be able to bolt the bracket/ecu combo in place as a unit?
That's how this 90-93 version is intended to be installed, and how I plan to make the 99+ version. :) The other way I could read that is you want a self-installing bracket/ecu... which I'm not sure I can make happen.. -Ryan |
How about an ECU bracket that installs in the passenger airbag compartment, for those of us that have deleted the airbags?
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/\ that would be easy, actually.
And so would making a 99+ bracket to mount MS in OEM location considering you can just copy the oem orientation and run a plate or piece of metal or anything you want connecting the two mounts and with like 2-4 holes in the plate to mount the MS. I see good potential for this idea :party: *edit: rike dis https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1413788153 |
Yup, that's the gist of it. The idea is to keep the ECU in the factory location - no relocation necessary, the wiring is already ready to rock and roll there, it's a secluded/safe spot, etc.
Also working on adapters for Reverent ECUs to fit our brackets. -Ryan |
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1176969)
/\ that would be easy, actually.
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Originally Posted by ThePass
(Post 1176970)
Yup, that's the gist of it. The idea is to keep the ECU in the factory location - no relocation necessary, the wiring is already ready to rock and roll there, it's a secluded/safe spot, etc.
Also working on adapters for Reverent ECUs to fit our brackets. -Ryan And I second the fantastic idea of a version 2 that extrudes tiny robotic legs and crawls up in there itself and nestles itself in your car's loins like a parasite, so I can skip all the "unbolt seat and flip myself around" hassle that Mobius mentioned. I'd pay at least another $25 for that option. |
Originally Posted by TheCowGod
(Post 1177025)
And I second the fantastic idea of a version 2 that extrudes tiny robotic legs and crawls up in there itself and nestles itself in your car's loins like a parasite,
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Originally Posted by Reverant
(Post 1176967)
How about an ECU bracket that installs in the passenger airbag compartment, for those of us that have deleted the airbags?
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1176969)
And so would making a 99+ bracket to mount MS in OEM location considering you can just copy the oem orientation and run a plate or piece of metal or anything you want connecting the two mounts and with like 2-4 holes in the plate to mount the MS.
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Originally Posted by ThePass
(Post 1176970)
Also working on adapters for Reverent ECUs to fit our brackets.
I've got a Rev MS3 waiting to go into my '91. This bracket will help me keep things neat and tidy. http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...54/311/747.jpg |
Yeah if your doing them for rev built units I'm sold! I ended up making my own metal bracket and it works well but it's in sucha tricky position it's a PITA to connect the serial cable to on/off.
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Originally Posted by Mazduh
(Post 1177109)
Yeah if your doing them for rev built units I'm sold! I ended up making my own metal bracket and it works well but it's in sucha tricky position it's a PITA to connect the serial cable to on/off.
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Any updates on adapter brackets to fit MS Labs MS3?
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The adapters for Reverent ECUs are designed and in the queue for production, we should have pieces to test fit beginning of this coming week. :)
-Ryan |
that's awesome. I have a Rev MS2 (not sure which generation). I'm hoping you've got something that will work for me. Worst case I pop a couple of holes in the case and screw it all together, right?
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Originally Posted by akbloom
(Post 1180085)
Worst case I pop a couple of holes in the case and screw it all together, right?
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That's exciting news. Do you have a rough price range in mind for the Rev brackets? Recent (few month old) MS3 in my case, if it makes a difference.
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Originally Posted by TheCowGod
(Post 1180094)
That's exciting news. Do you have a rough price range in mind for the Rev brackets? Recent (few month old) MS3 in my case, if it makes a difference.
-Ryan |
Originally Posted by rwyatt365
(Post 1177106)
Yes, please! (...and a Boomslang w/ 3ft of wires to boot...)
HORRORS, NO!! The only way I could figure out how to remove the top bolt of the OEM ECU location was after I had removed the dash! I could feel the f**ker, but just couldn't get a wrench on it. |
Originally Posted by ThePass
(Post 1180122)
I'm thinking if you buy the bracket from Good-Win Racing and need the reverent adapters, email us and we'll ship you a set for the cost of shipping + $5 or so, but don't quote me on that quite yet...
-Ryan
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1180126)
I just did this last week, and it was one of the easiest things ever. took literally 25 seconds per nut. maybe get proper tools?
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Originally Posted by TheCowGod
(Post 1180169)
Ah ok, so these are still only for 90-93, then?
The adapter brackets for Reverent ECUs are almost finished. Those adapters secure those ECUs (which do not normally have any mounting tabs on them) to Singular Motorsports ECU brackets - whether it's the 90-93 or 99+ bracket the adapters will work for both. You buy the bracket appropriate to your year, and if you have a Rev ECU contact us directly for the adapters. It wouldn't make sense to design a whole new bracket just for those ECUs. -Ryan |
Any updates on the Reverant compatible bracket? I'd love to get one for my 1990.
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Not pressing, but i'd be super interested in an airbag mount for an NA8.
And/or a bracket for factory location. |
My MSLabs MS3-B is out of the NB at the moment. A fancy new bracket would certainly motivate me to reinstall it :naughty:
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Hey guys, sorry for the delays! It's been equal parts due to the holidays as well as having a C7 Stingray come in for some product development with a tight deadline :)
Reverent ECU: I've made up the Reverent ECU adapter tabs that should allow MSLabs ECUs to fit Singular Motorsports ECU brackets. It turned out that our local guy with a Rev ECU had one of the old-style behemoth units *note: there is no hope for those to fit our brackets, sorry to those who have that model* so we just need to confirm the tabs do indeed work. Anyone who is up for purchasing a bracket through Good-Win Racing, I can mail the tabs direct to you if you'll confirm fitment for us :) 99+ bracket Working on the design for this one, but having to work that around the C7 stuff and a few other higher priorities, so I don't want to make any hard guarantees on when they will be released yet. -Ryan |
Bracket is on it's way from Goodwin!
So are the brackets for a Rev PNP MS3 unit (I don't consider the original units PNP, since they use a patch harness). Should be tested by the 9th or 10th I hope, if Oregonmon is back in town, might not be until the 13th/14th. This is all assuming both pieces arrive by then in this cluster fuck of a shipping month. |
I'll bite once curly confirms everything works with the Rev PNP MS3.
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