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Old 03-07-2020, 11:29 PM
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Alright so basically I found someone with a brand new Voodoo ecu locally and I'm getting it for $220.. which is a steal.

I plan on turbocharging my NB in the future so I just want to know if this is a good deal to take now. No I do not want MS because I dont want big power. Plus I dont know how to tune, and I dont have anyone local who has a dyno and can tune a japanese car.
I just want a small increase in power, 40-60 hp.

Or can I just use my stock ecu with no problems?
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Where did you get from that MS is only for big power?

The stock ecu won't be able to handle (significantly) more power, unless you add a piggyback. But to be honest, I would never go that route.

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Boost is like crack.
you think a little bit will be enough, but accessing more is so easy that you're going to want it.
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Stock ecu can handle exactly zip zero boost. So....
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Buy a Camaro imo.
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Originally Posted by concealer404
Buy a Camaro imo.
yeah no thanks
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You don't want to do things right, and you say you don't have anyone around you that will tune a Japanese vehicle. If you want to do things right, then buy a vehicle that isn't Japanese.

A Camaro is a good choice.
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Originally Posted by concealer404
You don't want to do things right, and you say you don't have anyone around you that will tune a Japanese vehicle. If you want to do things right, then buy a vehicle that isn't Japanese.

A Camaro is a good choice.
Why do you say "I don't want to do things right" Do you think voodoo is not right?
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The voodoo box essentially works by feeling the vacuum from the engine is now positive pressure.
It then modifies the factory ECU signal to the injectors and holds them open a bit more.
And in closed loop it fools the ECU by faking the o2 signal.

A megasquirt (or any standalone ecu) will allow the ECU to monitor what's happening and supply the exact fuel/spark needed. More work setting up, but a better running car at the end.




A piggyback is like trying to make your old CRT tv work with HDMI by adding a few adapter boxes to it so that you dont need to move the screen and change the power cord.
Yeah, it works in the end, but you've now got to deal with turning on the extra boxes and having 3 different remotes just to watch TV. And it's still not in high def.

vs a standalone which is like just buying a new flatscreen tv, and just getting rid of the CRT. You have one remote, and the whole thing works much better.
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Originally Posted by monotaks
Why do you say "I don't want to do things right" Do you think voodoo is not right?

Correct. Plus the idea that you'd even question if the stock ECU might do it suggests that you're not interested in doing things right, nor have you done any research.
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Originally Posted by hks_kansei
The voodoo box essentially works by feeling the vacuum from the engine is now positive pressure.
It then modifies the factory ECU signal to the injectors and holds them open a bit more.
And in closed loop it fools the ECU by faking the o2 signal.

A megasquirt (or any standalone ecu) will allow the ECU to monitor what's happening and supply the exact fuel/spark needed. More work setting up, but a better running car at the end.




A piggyback is like trying to make your old CRT tv work with HDMI by adding a few adapter boxes to it so that you dont need to move the screen and change the power cord.
Yeah, it works in the end, but you've now got to deal with turning on the extra boxes and having 3 different remotes just to watch TV. And it's still not in high def.

vs a standalone which is like just buying a new flatscreen tv, and just getting rid of the CRT. You have one remote, and the whole thing works much better.
Makes much more sense now, thank you. I will probably buy MS in the end.
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Originally Posted by concealer404
Correct. Plus the idea that you'd even question if the stock ECU might do it suggests that you're not interested in doing things right, nor have you done any research.
It's because I read that the stock ecu can handle boost, but I knew that was not true. So I wanted to make sure on these forums. I've done a ton of research. The only things for me to understand are the ECU's and the change of timing I will need to do to my NB.
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Originally Posted by monotaks
I've done a ton of research.
Clearly you have not.
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