Originally Posted by AbeFM
(Post 987951)
Cordy,
Perhaps when I do my rewire, I'll come across some of those plugs and can get more pics for Sven. If you have more pics I can give you a place to upload them - the issue is then going through an entering in the descriptions one at a time... The wiring harness is down in San Marcos and I'm in San Clemente, but I should be in that area this week. If so, I can pick it up and take some secondary pictures of the front/back/connector side of the plug. This is a great project and I'm happy to help. :bigtu: |
Cordy,
PM me your private email, I'll set up a log in for you so you can get into my pictures account. |
Hi Cordy,
I would really like some pictures of the whole harness laid out so that we can number all the connectors (I still think we miss quite some of them). And then of course enough pictures of the connectors that we are missing... That would be awesome! @Abe - I think we can name the series of about 90% of the connectors and most of the Sumi and Yazaki connectors use the same terminals... (Sometimes I feel like I dream of these bloody connectors ;) ) --------------------------------- Lets go a bit further... The square 4 position relay connector: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1362861814 Should be this one: Sumitomo 250 type connector 250(6.0mm) 4 Position Female Housing Part.-Nr. 6070-4891 - It looks a tad different - so I am not certain http://swsct.sws.co.jp/components/ph...0/60704891.jpg http://swsct.sws.co.jp/components/en..._s=60704891250 http://www.newunitedracetech.com/sho...48_749_750_751 I might have found the correct one - it's a YAZAKI CN-B Series connector Part.-Nr. 7123-2845 On page 4 of this PDF. (Though I think they are interchangeable with the Sumitomo) http://connectors-catalog.sys.yzk.co...Connectors.pdf |
So who, and where are these being categorized and labeled? (maybe i missed it)
Surely there must be a better more efficant way of doing it. |
Originally Posted by Erat
(Post 988126)
So who, and where are these being categorized and labeled? (maybe i missed it)
Surely there must be a better more efficant way of doing it. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...sLU8yX2c#gid=0 |
Originally Posted by Zaphod
(Post 988131)
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Cordy uploaded 99 pictures to my website in a different folder:
Cord's Miata Harness Pictures - AbeFM's Photos I should edit the first post and put it in there. The relay likely has many mates - not good for us if we're looking to find pins for it. The relay is clearly meant to work on a large number of connector types, there are locking tabs (unused and used) all over it. But to get the right pin, it needs to be the right one - though I agree a Sumitomo or Yakazi are most likely given what's used elsewhere. |
Leafy, you wrote the first post - could you do some edits (or could a mod inset a post ahead of it)?
Based on the pictures listed below, I've started an open spreadsheet (viewable by anyone, and editable by request if you contact me (AbeFM) on this forum via PM). You can reach it here: http://tinyurl.com/b88fewf Pics I have taken (or in some cases, were donated): MiataConnectorImages - AbeFM's Photos Additional posts of every connector on harness from Cordy: Cord's Miata Harness Pictures - AbeFM's Photos |
Its been too long for me to edit.
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Originally Posted by Zaphod
(Post 988131)
SL and DL are indeed cross-compatible where DL is preferred due to the more modern secondary lock system. I think maybe it is simplest just to create a Miata specific page on bmotorsports.com with the product listings using the spreadsheet provided so you can just buy all the parts and check out in one place. It can be difficult to map all the applications for every connection. Mazda, as with most Japanese OEMs, use multiple manufacturers and multiple series in this case AMP, Yazaki and Sumitomo. Great job on getting images and identification! Your work will make it easy to create a convenient one-stop shop for anyone who needs these "witch hunt" bits. Here is the Mazda Miata specific page in it's alpha form. It will be updated over time and over the next week or two should expand: Ballenger Motorsports - High Performance Electronics |
Originally Posted by vtjballeng
(Post 988798)
Wow, can't believe I missed this thread. Eastern Beaver does indeed stock many parts but is in Japan so shipping / time can be an issue. Mouser has some parts. New United has a great database system but doesn't stock many parts. Ballenger Motorsports has many of the parts available already but doesn't have them all listed online and/or in a simple search method for the Miata.
SL and DL are indeed cross-compatible where DL is preferred due to the more modern secondary lock system. I think maybe it is simplest just to create a Miata specific page on bmotorsports.com with the product listings using the spreadsheet provided so you can just buy all the parts and check out in one place. It can be difficult to map all the applications for every connection. Mazda, as with most Japanese OEMs, use multiple manufacturers and multiple series in this case AMP, Yazaki and Sumitomo. Great job on getting images and identification! Your work will make it easy to create a convenient one-stop shop for anyone who needs these "witch hunt" bits. Here is the Mazda Miata specific page in it's alpha form. It will be updated over time and over the next week or two should expand: Ballenger Motorsports - High Performance Electronics BTW I just bought CONN-100308 from you, it is for sure the VVT connector plug. |
Originally Posted by Leafy
(Post 988801)
I was reading this post going. Yeah yeah I know B carries pretty much every single thing we need, but a lot of it isnt listed or hard to find on the site. And then I was like yeah right they'll make a miata specific page, after giving me zero responses to emails. They're the kind of company that whats on the site ships quickly and at a good price but dont expect extra help. I guess I was wrong.
BTW I just bought CONN-100308 from you, it is for sure the VVT connector plug. The sensor sides can look very similar which is interesting because CONN-100308 is different than the VVT connector identified by others in the thread (TS vs SL). I will add the CONN-100308 to the list, thanks for validating that! |
1999 wiring harness
I went down to San Marcos and picked up my 1999 wiring harness. It's sitting in a cardboard box, waiting.
The individual pictures of each connector have been uploaded already, so if there are specific pictures or part numbers that are required, just let me know... |
I cant open the spread sheet at work, did we ever figure out the connector the the drivers and the AC fans on an NA? I need the fan side for making awesome plug and play fans.
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I don't think so - the regular fan we got though.
At least with stuff like that - splicing isn't as big a deal, in terms of signal integrity. I'd probably put an additional connector, maybe the same as the other stock fan. |
I am sorry to say that I am out of this game for a while - I simply don't have the time atm.
Sorry peeps, I will try to find some more later... |
Hope all is well with you, Sven. Thanks for all the help.
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Originally Posted by AbeFM
(Post 994512)
Hope all is well with you, Sven. Thanks for all the help.
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On to something for the 90-93 Miata (90-97 1.6l MX-5 in Europe)
Ignitor connector: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1365357759 Sumitomo DL(old) series Part.Nr.b6195-0038 SWS Components for Automobiles Sumitomo DL 090(2.3mm) Sealed Series 8 Position Female Housing [Dark Gray] [6195-0038] : New United Race Tech, New United Race Tech |
Any idea of the MAF connector for the 94-97?
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Post some good pics and I will see what I can do...
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Originally Posted by rharris19
(Post 998464)
Any idea of the MAF connector for the 94-97?
Originally Posted by Zaphod
(Post 998526)
Post some good pics and I will see what I can do...
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The red connector - Refrigerant pressure switch
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1365492789 It's a 2 cavity Delphi 12052643 Red Metripack 150 female connector https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1365492789 Delphi 12052643 Red Metripack 150 female connector Recommended terminal 12048074 Terminal release tool: 12094429 Assembly Components: 12052637 Connector 12103067 Seal Cross references: GM service 12101858 Kenworth CN1080 Topkick connector C112 Used on AC Delco pigtail PT250 / 12101858 It can also be bought at Ballenger Motorsports - though it's black then: Home » Shop » Connectors / Harnesses » Delphi / Packard » Connector Kits » GM Delphi / Packard - 2 Way Metripack 150 Plug Kit, Black |
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The white/natural connector - the condenser fan connector
is definitely a Yazaki connector To be seen because of the little triangular sign on the front of the left connector: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1362861814 But it seems to be outdated. I think that this SUMITOMO connector might be a fitting replacement: Male connector Part.Nr. 6187-2801 SWS Components for Automobiles https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1365496675 Female connector Part.Nr. 6180-2451 SWS Components for Automobiles http://swsct.sws.co.jp/components/ph...s/61802451.jpg Greets |
Originally Posted by cordycord
(Post 987839)
Anyone that finds the part numbers for the big blocky connectors gets a free Catfish t-shirt. :)
16 pin Tyco? Sumitomo? I dunno, but they are the main connectors between the engine, main, dash and PPF harnesses. BTW, I have pictures and descriptions of every connector on a 1999 harness, but no part numbers. I'd be happy to upload or send them to whomever is building a list. It's definitely a Yazaki 2.3 + 4.8 hybrid connector, even the grey holder has a Yazaki part.nr. on it. (But Yazaki doesn't have a 2.3 + 4.8 hybrid connector with 28/4 positions anymore and I can't find information about outdated connectors from Yazaki. Maybe Ballenger Motorsports can help us out here.) https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...t-img_8184-jpg |
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Just had a look at our 94/95 Can Miata.
The TPS connector is a AMP SSC (Sealed Sensor Connector) 4 Position connector https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1365533448 AMP SSC 4 Position Housing Key - A [Black] [184046-1] : New United Race Tech, New United Race Tech It's a OEM Toyota connector: Part.Nr. 90980-10711 and The MAF connector is a Yazaki 2.3II(090II) Connectors Sealed 5 Position Female Housing [Black] Part.Nr. 7283-1056-30 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1365533448 Yazaki 2.3II(090II) Connectors Sealed 5 Position Female Housing [Black] Greets It's a OEM Toyota connector: Part.Nr. 90980-11317 |
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Originally Posted by Zaphod
(Post 998526)
Post some good pics and I will see what I can do...
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1365552640 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1365552640 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1365552640 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1365552640 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1365552640 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1365552640 |
Can anyone confirm the IAC plug type for 99+ motors? The google docs page doesn't list a year for IAC and my 91 plug doesn't fit the 99 assembly
-Greer |
The iat is for 99+ I should change that I wanted to make sure the older one's dont it it, I know the 94-97 style doesnt and now we know the 90-93 style doesnt (if its even different from the 94-97).
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@Shueind - thanks for the pics - they confirm the connector in the post above yours
@g-reichow - the IAC for the 99+ is a AMP SSC (Sealed Sensor Connector) System connector Part.-Nr. 184000-1 Please see post Nr. 35 - there are the links for this connector at Mouser etc. Greets |
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In preparation of my 1,6 to VVT swap some more 1,6 connectors:
90-93 (-97 in Europe) TPS connector https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1365598136 Is a Bosch Automotive connector 3 position Part.Nr. 1237000039 connector TPS 3 pin plug Bosch http://www.efihardware.com/_linkedim...20090817182718 http://www.summitracing.com/parts/bch-1237000039 This should be the mating male connector: 3 PIN MALE Bosch | The Knock Box I suppose this one will also be fitting: http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-way-Bosch-...item5893418465 http://images.esellerpro.com/2133/I/...0connector.JPG Another name for the connector is AMP JPT Junior Power Timer Greets |
Originally Posted by Zaphod
(Post 999283)
Just had a look at our 94/95 Can Miata.
The TPS connector is a AMP SSC 4 Position Housing Key - A [Black] [184046-1] : New United Race Tech, New United Race Tech |
Originally Posted by Zaphod
(Post 999451)
@g-reichow - the IAC for the 99+ is a AMP SSC (Sealed Sensor Connector) System connector Part.-Nr. 184000-1
Please see post Nr. 35 - there are the links for this connector at Mouser etc. Thanks, Greer |
Thanks Lars and Sven. I don't have a clue how you are finding these so quickly, but I love it.
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Another source for Yazaki and Sumitomo Connectors:
Sumitomo Connector - Alternative Connection Also, the 99-00, 94-95.5, and 95.5-97 coil pack connectors are linking to the wrong part on the google excel sheet. It should be linked to: http://www.newunitedracetech.com/sho...58_676_681_682 |
Originally Posted by rharris19
(Post 999827)
Thanks Lars and Sven. I don't have a clue how you are finding these so quickly, but I love it.
If there are any more connectors off of a 92, 94, 95, or 96 harness that we need I can spend time this weekend taking pictures of the connectors. |
Originally Posted by shuiend
(Post 999841)
I have way to many miata's and wiring harnesses honestly.
If there are any more connectors off of a 92, 94, 95, or 96 harness that we need I can spend time this weekend taking pictures of the connectors. But I got my VVT engine together with engine + body harness today and I have the dash harness of a 2000 Miata lying here... So much to do, so little time.:giggle: |
I need to look back through here to find the 94-95.5 m/f coil pack harness to main harness 6 pin connector.
I want to make an entire harness just for the ecu to control the engine and nothing else in it, ala LS1 swap harnesses, out of the harness that goes from the ECU to the dash on the 94-97 models. Did you guys ever found the alternator plug? I would love to help, but I have no idea about this stuff. Also Coolant temp sensor for 94-97. http://i.ebayimg.com/t/URO-OEM-COOLA..._id=89040003C1 |
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Originally Posted by rharris19
(Post 999883)
I need to look back through here to find the 94-95.5 m/f coil pack harness to main harness 6 pin connector.
I want to make an entire harness just for the ecu to control the engine and nothing else in it, ala LS1 swap harnesses, out of the harness that goes from the ECU to the dash on the 94-97 models. Did you guys ever found the alternator plug? I would love to help, but I have no idea about this stuff. Also Coolant temp sensor for 94-97. http://i.ebayimg.com/t/URO-OEM-COOLA..._id=89040003C1 This one should be the one you can buy here - I would need pictures of the connector to tell what brand and part.-nr. it is... http://store.driftmotion.com/static/...mpconn2pin.php Edit - found it: It's an AMP SSC 2 Position https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1365780741 http://www.newunitedracetech.com/sho...-d-p-5764.html Part.Nr. is 184006-1 https://www.corsa-technic.com/item_images/TA2DS.jpg |
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So I've taken a shitload of pics, might be a little fuzzy in some. All come from a 94 1.8 (euro spec if it matters) except for the VVT ones obviously.
Alternator connector: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...t-img_0984-jpg https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...t-img_0985-jpg https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...t-img_0986-jpg https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...t-img_0988-jpg VTPS: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...t-img_0989-jpg https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...t-img_0990-jpg https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...t-img_0991-jpg CLT sender for ECU, back of head: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...t-img_1005-jpg https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...t-img_1006-jpg Big connector from injector harness, female side: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...t-img_1007-jpg https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...t-img_1008-jpg Big connector from injector harness, male side: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...t-img_1009-jpg https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...t-img_1010-jpg Big pronged orange connector, I forget what it's for. Male side: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...t-img_1011-jpg https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...t-img_1012-jpg Big pronged orange connector, female side: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...t-img_1013-jpg https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...t-img_1014-jpg OEM narrowband O2 connector: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...t-img_1015-jpg https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...t-img_1016-jpg Now for the VVT motor: Temp sender for gauge and ECU: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...t-img_0992-jpg Cam sensor (I need this pigtail!!): https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...t-img_0993-jpg https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...t-img_0994-jpg https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...t-img_0995-jpg Crank sensor (I need this pigtail!!): https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...t-img_1003-jpg https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...t-img_1004-jpg VVT actuator (I need this pigtail!!): https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...t-img_0997-jpg https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...t-img_0998-jpg OEM NB knocksensor: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...t-img_1001-jpg https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...t-img_1002-jpg And a bonus, I have no idea what it is. It's bolted to the CAS block off plate on the VVT motor: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...t-img_0996-jpg |
Originally Posted by Oscar
(Post 1000404)
So I've taken a shitload of pics, might be a little fuzzy in some. All come from a 94 1.8 (euro spec if it matters).
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I think we already have most of the connectors in the spreadsheet.
The last pic could be the condenser / capacitor of the iginition harness. |
Originally Posted by Zaphod
(Post 1000415)
I think we already have most of the connectors in the spreadsheet.
The last pic could be the condenser / capacitor of the iginition harness. |
@Leafy - no the LAST pic - the 2 position connector attached to the CAS blockoff plate.
The VTPS connector: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...t-img_0989-jpg Is a AMP SSC 4 position Part.Nr. 184046-1 AMP SSC 4 Position Housing Key - A [Black] [184046-1] : New United Race Tech, New United Race Tech http://us.100y.com.tw/product_jpg_original/A034672.jpg @Oscar - have you got pics of the IAC connector? |
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1.6 NA IAC coming up :) Hope they're clear enough.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 999545)
I just requested a sample of this to test. I'm going to be tuning a miata who at one pont had a different TPS and TB install and the stock connector was cut off, it has since returned to the stock TPS but simple has contacts slide over the pins and glued in place. I'd like to repair this.
yeah: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1365792172 |
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Originally Posted by Oscar
(Post 1000444)
1.6 NA IAC coming up :) Hope they're clear enough.
I THINK it could be an AMP SSC 184002-1 connector, but I am not sure - I would like to have a pic from the back of the connector (anshrap picture;-) ) Greets |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1000453)
(I can't really tell because of the loose pin ;) ) Greets |
Originally Posted by Zaphod
(Post 1000456)
Yeah as in Yes this bloody connector fits or as yeah what a shit...!?
(I can't really tell because of the loose pin ;) ) Greets |
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Ah, now I see...
About the Alternator connector: From the pics I think that the terminals are quite big (looks like 6.3mm) so the connector could be this one: http://www.newunitedracetech.com/sho...6_944_1303_945 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1365797707 |
Originally Posted by Zaphod
(Post 1000455)
Easy... ;-) (dang, not so easy...)
I THINK it could be an AMP SSC 184002-1 connector, but I am not sure - I would like to have a pic from the back of the connector (anshrap picture;-) ) Greets |
yeah, thats why i said i bought that TPS connector.... and by bought I mean requested a sample.
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Read through the post... Awesome info. Does anyone have the part for the power window connector? The 6 pin big white one, typically under the console in an NA Saw the one for 99, but this is two rows of 3 connectors, female and white. Any help would be great! The other side of the connector, the one it plugs into has the following on it 055-3x10. Not sure if that helps.
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Not 100% sure. I do know that its one of the housing that have normal spade connectors. Female side on the chassis, obviously. If you just want to pull gauge power and ground from there, jamming spade connectors into it is perfectly acceptable IMO.
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Originally Posted by ddikeht
(Post 1001049)
Read through the post... Awesome info. Does anyone have the part for the power window connector? The 6 pin big white one, typically under the console in an NA Saw the one for 99, but this is two rows of 3 connectors, female and white. Any help would be great! The other side of the connector, the one it plugs into has the following on it 055-3x10. Not sure if that helps.
ah.. just Googled it Here is a pic: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1366006432 This one should be fitting Sumitomo 250 type connector 250(6.0mm) 6 Position Female Housing [Natural] Part No. 6070-6481 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1366006432 Sumitomo 250 type connector 250(6.0mm) 6 Position Female Housing [Natural] [6070-6481] : New United Race Tech, New United Race Tech |
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Over the weekend I got my connectors for my TPS 1,6 to VVT harness build...
The AMP JPT 3 position connector fits perfectly well... https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1366006630 |
Originally Posted by Zaphod
(Post 1001091)
I take out my NA console anyway - I will have a look at the connector.
ah.. just Googled it Here is a pic: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1366006432 This one should be fitting Sumitomo 250 type connector 250(6.0mm) 6 Position Female Housing [Natural] Part No. 6070-6481 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1366006432 Sumitomo 250 type connector 250(6.0mm) 6 Position Female Housing [Natural] [6070-6481] : New United Race Tech, New United Race Tech |
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I just took a picture of my 1996 1,6 MX-5s IAC connector (Euro only -s o I don't know if this applies to the 1,6 90-03 cars too)
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1366026310 The connector is a AMP SSC Part.-Nr. 184002-1 It's basicly the same as the 00-05 IAC connector, but has got different keyways. |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1000453)
winner! https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-X...415_150407.jpg |
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