Connector Witch Hunt
 

Ok heres another miata topic that is significantly lacking. We dont have a list of all the harness connectors present and it takes quite a bit of searching and a good bit of luck to order the right ones. So far I know that the 94-95 ignition sub harness connector is a 6 pin sumitomo DL series. Now though I'm looking for VICS solenoid, VVT actuator, VVT cam position sesor, NB crank sensor, NB TPS, NB IAC harness connectors. And a moon shot, the CAS side connector (would make the NB cam/crank sensors PNP) I've made some progress but I want to tap the knowledge here before committing.

VICS noid Sumitomo HX 2 pin (non-bottom rib) I'm not 100 percent on this one but it seems most likely.
VVT actuator, Drawing a blank on this one. Heres the best picture of it I got And another Linked to avoid clutter.
Cam sensors are made by delphi, I cant find the mating part best images here
Crank is a sumitomo 3P090WP-DL-M
TPS, not sure if this is even different, post from savington on the swap wiring alludes to it. IAC is also being tricky, cant find either.Heres a picture of both Idle Air solenoid
CAS connector is a sumitomo DL series and would be called 4P090WP-DL-M if it existed since the harness side is a 4P090WP-DL-F. I might have to call on that one and get lucky.
01+ COP harness connector = 3P090WP-DL-F

So any help here would be great. I have a gut feeling that Joe already knows all of these connectors. Worst comes to worst I cut the connectors out of a scrap harness then figure out what they are so I can buy new pins and re-pin them.

Do you have this site on your list of places to look?

Ballenger Motorsports - High Performance Electronics

Yup, and waytech, tyco, and delphi. But delphi's site is less than useful for this kind of thing, so I'm struggling with the delphi connectors the most, and even if I figure out what they are, finding a place to buy them will be the next issue.

I'm looking for a coil pack connector.

Any info on that? Will keep an eye out.

For your 94 or your 99? Far as I can tell there are different coil pack connectors for 90-93, 94-94.5, 95-97, 99-00 (+mazdaspeed), and 01-05 ( not mazdaspeed).

If we get this thread filled out, I vote sticky!

This is a great resource as well. There pictures are pretty helpful. Sealed

It looks like that cam position sensor might be a sumitomo hx series connector. But I could be wrong.

Thats what I thought as well, but it has internal keys and the locking tab is not the correct style. Eastern beaver is my source for all sumitomo connectors.

I was looking for my 99, however the connectors are the same for 94&99 as far as coil pack connectors go. Four pin plug with one pin not used. The 01+ goes to COP.

Thanks for this thread. This will help for so many projects.

Leafy if you do some deep searching around on here you will find some posts from Joe Perez where he has found part numbers for a lot of the connectors. I believe most of those thread will be in the ECU section somewhere.

Hunting I go to the ecu section. I guess I'll have to go manually read everything, google searching the site wasn't very helpful earlier this morning.

I havent found anything more. I emailed eastern beaver on the CAS connector, and he said that connector doesnt exist and the connector that plugs into it, its a "direct connect to device" type connector.

I emailed ballenger about the other connectors I can't figure out, with pictures. We'll see what they say.

Still no work back from Ballenger. I'm going to re-send it.

I may have just hit the motherload But I dont have time to sort though it right now.

Found the iac connector, or should I say corsa found it. http://www.corsa-technic.com/item.ph..._id=348&page=3

After a nice m.netter posted pictures of his harness connectors, I noticed that the 01+ cops and the crank sensor plug looked very similar. That poster then plugged the two together at my request and it works. So, 01+ COP harness connector = 3P090WP-DL-F

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...1lCaHRsLU8yX2c

Just the barest outlines of a spreadsheet. Anyone can view this - and I will allow people I deem qualified/responsible (i.e. most of you folks) to make edits, just ask me and set me up with your email address you use with google products.

Cool, stuff. Doesnt quite seem to be working with that link though.

Huh. I see someone else viewing... What happens when you click it? You should be able to view but not edit it

Unable to connect, fire fox cannot connect to the server at docs.google.com. I'm betting its just my work internet throwing fits. I know it blocks me from google translate.

Sucks. Guess you can check it out when you get home. :-(
Anyone who has anything to add (which is most of you, I know I've seen part numbers floating around) just PM me the email you want to use and I'll grant you access.

Leafy, want to dump your stuff in there? That'll be a good start...

Yeah, I forgot to do that after work yesterday. I'll try to remember to do it today.

To whom it may concern,

I was looking for the coil pack connector for my 99. I found a guy on my local forum that was into Lemons, time attack, NASA and what ever else. He was parting with all of his Miata stuff to get into IROC. He said if i want the connector I had to take it all. So now I have a box full of old harnesses. I haven't gone through it yet but it looks to be 3-4 cars worth of engine harnesses. ABS computers, fuse blocks, clips and connectors as far as the eye can see. If you would like me to take pics, measure, count pins or what ever, let me know.

Ps; all for sale if you would like to buy connectors.

Ok, this is making more sense after looking at it.

At the risk of extreme thread drift, what on earth are you talking about? You want to run NB sensors on an NA motor, or, the other way around, or???



Cam and Crank sensors are made by stacks upon stacks of people, there are at least three different manufacturers. I've cut a few apart. :-) Not sure how this helps. :-)


I think I'm starting to get this - I'm sometimes unsure about which side you're talking about!

Heh - no, sadly Joe Does Not Know (way better than some WWJD bracelet)... The more I poke around, the less I find people who know.

I am giving a lot more thought to just re-pinning the connectors I have, then all I need to know is who made them and what series they are.... But repinning leads to breaking, so it'll come up anyway.

Ok, just went out and took a few shots of all the connectors I could reasonably get to on the car in pajamas. Why I wouldn't change out of PJs for a project like this is as ridiculous as asking why a grown, educated man isn't at WORK 10 till at noon on a wednesday.

See pics here: MiataConnectorImages - AbeFM's Photos

That said, several of the connectors have small, 2-3 digit numbers on them. As likely date codes as part number look ups, but maybe it's a place to start? Some of them are keyed, I tired to show these where possible.

pics are still uploading, and I'll have to reorder them and comment on each photo to describe what it is. Anyway, this should be a big step forward.

Notable connectors I couldn't get:
Ignition connector - no idea where the coil pack or wires are. COP FTW
Water Temp Connector - after my reroute, it would take serious effort to get to it.
Speedometer Cable - would require jacks and I could break a nail or muss my hair.
Alternator Control Plug - would love to have this, certainly something needed. Likely get it next time I'm out in garage.
99+ MAF - it's currently living on a friend's turbocharged R1 powered sandrail as a way for us to develop code on a new EMS. Not driving to AZ to snap pics of it.
Charcoal canister, break switches, etc etc....

Someone mentioned perhaps getting some pics - I would put these on the top of the list:
Water Temp
Coil Pack
Alternator
MAF

Try to get good, IN FOCUS pictures, especially of any keying and any numbers/letters. You can PM me and I'll host them on my site.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1358971370

http://abefm.smugmug.com/Miata/Refer..._112623-X2.jpg

It would be so you could make a pnp harness for putting an NB engine into an NA chassis, at least on the cam/crank sensor side of things.

What about on the other side? The NA computer won't run it anyway?

Its assuming you have some sort of standalone ecu that is already wired for the NA connector, so it would just require a software change between the two types of triggers. Would basically minimize the mount of cutting I would need to do. Not a big deal, I'll just have to cut that connector off and replace it with a weather pack that goes to both sensors.

Is it just my imagination, or is that the word "AMP" on the back of that connector?

If it's a coincidence, it's a heck of a coincidence.

I can only make out the J13, but I am using the poverty monitors at work.

My thoughts exactly.


Sure, there's also a "2". If you check out the you'll find pics like
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1358975727

and
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1358975727

masterfully focused by clicking on the screen of phone before taking picture so it knew what I was talking about.

Of course, most of the numbers are quite a bit more useless, that one sensor (quite possibly made by Amp) has more writing on it than the rest of the car put together.

This amp connector:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1358975727
clearly has information on it.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1358975727


But the sumi-stuff... https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1358975727

e16 is the best I can find.

I was looking for a male connector to build a PNP-IAT harness:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1358975727

This seems to be an Toyota connector:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359011299

Part.-Nr. 90980-11163

But what make could this be...? As we need the male part of that...

EDIT:

O.K. Here we go - it made by YAZAKI Part.-Nr. 7283-1224-10 http://connectors-catalog.sys.yzk.co...list&select=05
(Found it here - this could be a good source for some of the part.-numbers: New United Race Tech, New United Race Tech

http://connectors-catalog.sys.yzk.co...283122410s.jpg

There is no - "Mating Part Numbers" - so I guess there is no male connector for this... (I have a spare Air temp sensor, so I am going to use this)

This one is also a Toyota Connector:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1358975727

Also made by Yazaki Part.-Nr. 7283-1133-10

http://connectors-catalog.sys.yzk.co...283113310s.jpg

Here are the details:
YAZAKI Connectors Catalog

Zaphod - Excellent work! Please PM me your email, you could add to the spreadsheet. There's tons more pics on the website. I can post more a couple at a time and we can work on them... I want to get it filled out.

I talked to the dude at Eastern Beaver, and he said he'd be open to ordering more connectors from the same lines, so we need to get that spreadsheet done.... This should be a totally tackleable problem.

2-Way Receptacle Kit

looks like 99+ IAC connector. anyone confirm?

Some more:

This one - CAM sensor(?)

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359103106

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359103106

Is also YAZAKI Par.-Nr. 7283-8730-30

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359111312

YAZAKI Connectors Catalog


And some more:

This one - (What sensor is it?)

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359109411

Should be a Sumitomo DL sealed Series Part No. 6195-0006 (please check this - I am not entirely sure because of the tongue in the middle of the male connector)
http://swsct.sws.co.jp/components/en..._s=61950006dls

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359110073

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359110073

Here we go again:

Crank position Sensor

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359116496

Also a Sumitomo DL sealed series
http://swsct.sws.co.jp/components/en..._s=61950012dls

Male connector Part.-Nr. 6195-0012
http://swsct.sws.co.jp/components/ph...s/61950012.jpg
Female connector Part.-Nr. 6195-0009
http://swsct.sws.co.jp/components/ph...s/61950009.jpg

Here is the complete range of the DL sealed series as a PDF file: http://swsct.sws.co.jp/components/series/pdf/dls.pdf

Seems I got a run today... ;-)

Please help me out again, what it is...

http://abefm.smugmug.com/Miata/Refer..._113005-XL.jpg

It's a YAZAKI 2.3II(090II) series Part.-Nr. 7283-1133-10

http://connectors-catalog.sys.yzk.co...list&select=05

http://connectors-catalog.sys.yzk.co...283113310s.jpg


On to the the AMP connectors...

This one IAC (?):
http://abefm.smugmug.com/Miata/Refer..._112816-XL.jpg

Could very well be a AMP SSC (Sealed Sensor Connector) System connector

Part.-Nr. 184000-1
http://de.mouser.com/images/tycoelec..._1840001_t.jpg
Here it is at Mouser:
http://de.mouser.com/Search/ProductD...o5hjBYfw%3D%3D

Here is a complete list of the sealed AMP connectors:
http://www.powerandsignal.de/Images/...Connectors.pdf

Wow, you're getting ahead of me!

I'll label them on my website then come back here and do what I can. Are you just taking the images I've posted here?

BTW - the black, second one you asked about is the TPS.

The first, grey one you asked about is the Knock Sensor Harness and Vehicle Side Harness for 00 miata

The one you called "VVT" is actually the cam sensor - they are the same between 99-05, even though the go to VVT, they just moved the location they used it at.

NOT VVT! It's the cam position sender, as mentioned in previous post, it moved to the rear of the motor in later, VVT years, but the part is the same. Good find!








That one's the knock sensor plug. I may actually have to go check my car to figure out which side is which since mine's a jumble, as I made an intercept cable for it. Still, I believe the pinned connector is the sender. Wil verify.

Very important sensor!

TPS! TPS (Throttle Position Sensor) harness plug for a '00 miata
http://abefm.smugmug.com/Miata/Refer..._112943-XL.jpg

http://abefm.smugmug.com/Miata/Refer..._113109-XL.jpg
More labels... 11261 and B2-2


http://abefm.smugmug.com/Miata/Refer..._112836-X3.jpg

And
http://abefm.smugmug.com/Miata/Refer..._112842-XL.jpg

Yeah - looks like an AMP to me.

Whew! Took some editing. Apparently, I had lots of stuff duplicated.

Now everything is labeled!

MiataConnectorImages - AbeFM's Photos

Every picture has a caption saying what it is. There's 50 images, but only a handful of connectors. I am happy to take more pics if there's something people want to see. Guess I should at least try to get on teh water temp sender, but if someone else can get this, it would be way better. I'll host it when it's taken - someone haf a harness, right?

I have a few harnesses. I really don't know from what years, although I haven't really looked into it too hard. I'll take a guess and say NA1 and NA2 possible NB1 I'm sure I can pull the temp sensor off of one or more tonight and get the info.

now we need 99+ tps

See post 38 - if it's a '00 TPS it's also a '99 TPS connector...

didnt see that. excellent work!

This thread is full of win. The tab on my IAC connector snapped off when I removed it. BAM! Thread delivers!

OMG - have you guys checked out the spreadsheet? Sven went madhouse on it and now it's like at least half filled out.

We have part numbers for:

IAT
Idle Valve (IAC)
TPS
Camshaft Position
Crank Position from Eng Harness
Crank Position from Sensor
Knock Sensor from Eng Harness
Knock Sensor from Sensor
Cop Harness From Eng Harness
COP Harness to Eng Harness


Still need: info on
OEM COP
CLT
VICS
VVT
Various fuel injectors
Toyo COP
MAF
OEM ECU plugs
Dash stuff.....


Basically, we're pretty close. With the list just a bit more filled out, it'll be worth trying to track down vendors to sell it all. I'll add a couple columns for competing prices/vendors and soon people will be able to get any individual plug or redo a whole harness/create a PNP at will!

Wait, wait, wait - I just had to stop, because I had no time...;-)

I will see what I can do on the rest soon.

I will take pics of the CLT sensor connector and of some other...

Which side OEM ECU plugs are we talking about? The female or male side? I can get detailed pictures of my VVT plug tomorrow.

ECU connectors (out of the How to make your own Megasquirt)

(1) 26 Pin Female connector (174516-6)
(1) 22 Pin Female connector (174515-6)
(1) 16 Pin Female connector (174514-6)

All Tyco/Amp
Added to the spreadsheet

Edit:
Toyota Cops Connector added to the spreadsheet

Sven

We are seriously getting there. I was like two days from giving up before.
Try to get a temp sender plug pic as well!
-Abe.

Added Knock sensor, Coil pack connectors info in the spreadsheet.

I (might) have found the info on the OEM coolant sensor connector for the 99-00:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359373497
Sumitomo SL sealed series 090(2.3mm) 3 Position Female Housing [Black] [6189-0646] : New United Race Tech, New United Race Tech

Sumitomo Part.-Nr. 6189-0646 SL sealed series

Could be this one - BUT Sumitomo doesn't seem to produce them anymore...
At least it's not in the SL series PDF anymore.
http://swsct.sws.co.jp/components/series/pdf/sls.pdf

We need pictures of the following connectors:

MAF 99-00
VSS
Neutral switch
Reverse switch
Clutch switch
Fuel injectors OEM

Greets
Sven

Do you mean the plug for the speed sensor on a NB for VSS? I know at least for the NA that VSS is handled by the gauge cluster.

For neutral and reverse switch those are just little clips on the transmission. I can try to get pictures of those in the next day or so, but I do not know which sensor on the trans is which.

OEM fuel injectors, I should have a spare harness in my shed that I can hopefully snap pictures of.

Could someone please make some nice pictures of the VVT connector!

Edit: I might also have found the correct connector for the VICS.

It could be a SUMITOMO 62 sealed series connector

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359381840
http://www.newunitedracetech.com/sho...91_598_601_610

I am not quite sure about this one - but I haven't found another connector with this little "wings" on the back of the connector.

for reference - here are Abe's pictures of this connector.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359381840

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359381840

Maybe you could cross-check this...

Maybe sticky this thread in ECUs and Tuning?

I would say thats a great idea, but just in case I'm subscribing for later reference.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359403348

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359403348

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359403348

All pics of a VVT '01 from a kindly fellow over on m.net

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359403348

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359403348

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359403348

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359403348

Those are the OEM COP

I can try to get more of the transmission sensors.

Certainly the Temp Sender you showed LOOKS right. Gotta be available somewhere.


Guess I'll go see if I can find the OEM fuel injector connector - might have one since I was doing some bench testing of some low ohm drivers recently.



More pics of the VICS connector:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359403348
(Ignore the diode I soldered on there. That was a megasquirt issue)

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359403348

I'll dig around for the MAF. Otherwise I'll bug the guy I mailed it to to get some pics for me.

OEM COP is the same as the crank sensor. I cant add it to the spreadsheet because I'm at work.

Oh yeah - that was obvious when I saw it. Guess I should tweak the sheet.



Looks right, even has the key.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359423341



https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359423235

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359423235

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359423235

Fuel Injectors:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359423235

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359423235

http://abefm.smugmug.com/Miata/Refer..._171703-X2.jpg

http://abefm.smugmug.com/Miata/Refer...8_171634-L.jpg

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359425373

Looks like the only pic I have of the MAF. Then again, it looks a lot like the Crank Position Sensor.

Actually, I know it is, because I had a friend who plugged one into the other and lit his dash on fire (+5 and GND are always on the "same" side, so when mated they short.)....

So it's the opposite gender of the one we have. Still trying to get other friend to take pic of it.

99 MAF

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359428466

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359428466

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359428466

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359428466

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359428466



99 Clutch
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359428466

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359428466

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359428466

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359428466

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359428466

I have no idea what series those less intricate connectors are - speedo, tach, etc.... It'd be nice to know, at least to buy the pins, so they could be redone and those traction-control and tach drives could all be done....