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90 Turbo 01-15-2016 11:13 AM

As a guy who will never see this kind of boost I don't need fix. But r u really saying people attitude was bad so u not sharing fix.

So we r the ones with an attitude problem.

OK sure

Seems like the adult way to handle it to me.

Then you keep posting to what rub in our faces that you know something we dont.
You came here for help but will give none. Yeah that's the way to live.


Shouldn't you be out pushing old ladies down for sport or sucker punching people on YouTube for amusement

fivehundredton 01-15-2016 11:18 AM

"Not keen to share the fix due to condescending attitude Chris has received on here, all he was after was shared experiences."

Fuck off.

hornetball 01-15-2016 11:21 AM

It's so great having Fael back. I'm laughing my head off.

Savington 01-15-2016 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by hornetball (Post 1299600)
It's so great having Fael back. I'm laughing my head off.

You don't know what you had until it's gone :likecat:

sixshooter 01-15-2016 01:00 PM

BP Head Lifting
 
Please tell us about the fix for the problem we don't ever have. I'm on the edge of my seat.

glade 01-15-2016 01:09 PM

It's obviously the same fix that 1200 horsepower supras use!

Because 400 whp miata = mega supra.....

In all honesty, two epic builds.

Non conformance to grow the community through shared experience- not mega, kinda douche-y.




And, am I the only one who noticed a pattern?

"Hey guys, lifted the head. Anyone have any fixes"

No, we dont lift heads. Other problem?

"No, it's a known issue, and my friend knows how to fix it"......

Oh, wow. Usually we see x,y,z causeing issues. You sure it's the head?

"Yes, I have direct experience with my friends build doing the same thing, and he fixed it. Don't tell me I don't have this issue"

Wow.

Friend "here's my admittedly baddass build doing the same thing. I know how to fix it, but I don't want to share"

"Yea"

Well, how do you fix it?

"Don't want to share, you guys weren't nice enough, but I know how to fix it"


......






If you had direct experience with the problem, and with a solution to the problem, why the f*ck did you post asking for suggestions?

Itty 01-15-2016 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by AL4SPN (Post 1299133)
started to lift the head at around 25ish PSI

This whole thread is about boners.

Monk 01-15-2016 02:01 PM

If your boyfriend can blow that hard, surely he can suck just as well.
Might help lift the head sooner.

Faeflora 01-15-2016 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1299558)
one time i didnt torque my head down well and blew out a brand new head gasket.

100% head lifted.

If you copper plated your hg you wouldn't have had that problem.

AL4SPN 01-17-2016 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by glade (Post 1299663)
It's obviously the same fix that 1200 horsepower supras use!

Because 400 whp miata = mega supra.....

In all honesty, two epic builds.

Non conformance to grow the community through shared experience- not mega, kinda douche-y.




And, am I the only one who noticed a pattern?

"Hey guys, lifted the head. Anyone have any fixes"

No, we dont lift heads. Other problem?

"No, it's a known issue, and my friend knows how to fix it"......

Oh, wow. Usually we see x,y,z causeing issues. You sure it's the head?

"Yes, I have direct experience with my friends build doing the same thing, and he fixed it. Don't tell me I don't have this issue"

Wow.

Friend "here's my admittedly baddass build doing the same thing. I know how to fix it, but I don't want to share"

"Yea"

Well, how do you fix it?

"Don't want to share, you guys weren't nice enough, but I know how to fix it"


......






If you had direct experience with the problem, and with a solution to the problem, why the f*ck did you post asking for suggestions?

I said we had done some mods to try and fix it but wasn't tested yet and asking if anyone else had any experiences with head lifting

AlwaysBroken 01-17-2016 03:29 PM

Then the answer is no. We don't have experience with head lifting. Experience with several dozen other things, but not that.

Plenty of people here with stock head bolts and plenty here with arp head studs, so it's not the fasteners.
Plenty of people here making your power level, so it's not the power.
Nearly everyone here runs the stock HG, so it's not the head gasket (unless you're running a weird aftermarket one that isn't actually as good as the stock one).

Unless you guys are willing to tell us more about your issue instead of asking making vague assertions and accusing us of being unpleasant/impatient/etc, we really can't help.

hornetball 01-17-2016 03:47 PM

Also, I would add that blowing coolant with no other symptoms does not necessarily mean your head is lifting. A blown HG can do that just as well. I once had this on a 10psi car -- and it would only do it on track -- never on the street.

I'm not saying it's not head lifting in your case, just saying that blowing coolant is not determinative.

Faeflora 02-01-2016 05:50 AM

So dud u fx th head lift

Braineack 02-01-2016 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 1299748)
If you copper plated your hg you wouldn't have had that problem.

but the $10 ebay Evergreen brand HG was much cheaper.

AL4SPN 02-01-2016 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 1304106)
So dud u fx th head lift

No issues so far, had the head skimmed and the head stud\nut bosses machined to remove where the washers had dug in, used the bigger arp washers and tightened to 90ft/lb, doesn't push any water at the moment but have only had it up to 20psi ran out of time to get it tuned again before an event here.

Confident it is fixed tho, JRCOZY motor has seen 30psi and a few 1/4 mile runs and no longer pushes water.

Faeflora 02-01-2016 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by AL4SPN (Post 1304211)
No issues so far, had the head skimmed and the head stud\nut bosses machined to remove where the washers had dug in, used the bigger arp washers and tightened to 90ft/lb, doesn't push any water at the moment but have only had it up to 20psi ran out of time to get it tuned again before an event here.

Confident it is fixed tho, JRCOZY motor has seen 30psi and a few 1/4 mile runs and no longer pushes water.


congratz u r also like 1/5 miata to ever push above 2bar. oh wait 323 thats more manly nvrmd

mph in qtr plz

AL4SPN 02-01-2016 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 1304215)
congratz u r also like 1/5 miata to ever push above 2bar. oh wait 323 thats more manly nvrmd

mph in qtr plz

JRCOZY Best - 10.79@136
Mine - 11.2@125 - i think

ryansmoneypit 02-01-2016 10:15 PM

I've been absent, so pardon my ignorance. ...

But was the major breakthrough, to not use the little ARP washers, but the stock size ones instead? Or are we using fender washers now?

AL4SPN 02-01-2016 10:37 PM


Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit (Post 1304294)
I've been absent, so pardon my ignorance. ...

But was the major breakthrough, to not use the little ARP washers, but the stock size ones instead? Or are we using fender washers now?

Pretty much, my head had big marks in the bosses where the washers sit, where they had compressed the materiel and sunken in, whether you want to believe that the head lifted and caused the issue I was having or not, this shows there is something not 100% right, others have found this problem with many other engines 2jz's seem to be the most documented or most prone to it, arp actually ships the 2jz kits now with the bigger washers as standard

Faeflora 02-02-2016 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by AL4SPN (Post 1304217)
JRCOZY Best - 10.79@136
Mine - 11.2@125 - i think

damn fast


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