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Old May 6, 2019 | 04:54 PM
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Post a pic. There's a little nub that will pop out the back, but it's just a locating nub and it's not actually sealing anything. If the sides of the seal are coming out, something else is wrong.

I've done dozens of these and literally never had a problem, so something isn't right.
Gonna try again today/tomorrow and just wanted to ask... How long do you wait after everything is together to torque it up to the 70-90 inchlbs or whatever? Do you let the moon seals set overnight first? I read someone recommend to put the seals on with RTV on the motor side and put the oil pain over it with some light torque to get them to settle first. And black/grey rtv doesn't matter right? I'm using ultra black.

Should I also plan to reseal the oil pump? It didn't leak but I've done this a few times now and I'm wondering if some brake cleaner might have gotten through. I doubt it though because I never scrubbed there...

Just trying to make sure that this time takes...

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Old May 6, 2019 | 05:13 PM
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How many posts are you going to make without a picture?
Old May 6, 2019 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Savington
How many posts are you going to make without a picture?
Lol
Old May 6, 2019 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Savington
How many posts are you going to make without a picture?
This is what it looked like.

Getting up to spec the center part here would squish as expected, but I could feel the seal on top of the nubbin protruding out. Ie it was slightly past flush.


The wing on the edge is visible here. The tail at the end isn't coming out but the start of the wing where it curves is compressed and you can tell its coming out there.


And same thing in this picture.



I think it's this part of the seal.


The tail isn't coming out. Just the part above is compressing and coming out past flush. Don't know if that's within the normal range of things.
Old May 6, 2019 | 06:56 PM
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Put the tube of spooge down and back away slowly. Holy hell dude.

What little i can see of the gasket under all that mess looks fine. Send it.
Old May 6, 2019 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by concealer404
Put the tube of spooge down and back away slowly. Holy hell dude.

What little i can see of the gasket under all that mess looks fine. Send it.
Haha that's what happens when you have to do it like 30 times. I cleaned it up for this go around!

I honestly thought it was okay, but ended up deciding to do the rms as well so I pulled off the piece that holds the seal and did I'd just ******* do it again.

What worried me is that all the above was happening before torque spec. How long do you typically wait to tighten things?
Old May 6, 2019 | 07:22 PM
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Hour or two, max. Unsure if that's 100% proper. If Andrew says to do something different, listen to him. I've never personally had a fresh motor, or even a block-out re-sealed motor leak, though.

That's just my DPE. If you like DP as much as i do, you can listen to me.

Thick rubber gaskets like that are going to deform a little, nothing you can do about it. The difference between 50inlbs and 70inlbs isn't huge.
Old May 6, 2019 | 08:01 PM
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I do the entire oil pump, RMS cage, windage tray, pickup tube, and oil pan installation in approximately 10 minutes from start to finish.
Old May 6, 2019 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Savington
I do the entire oil pump, RMS cage, windage tray, pickup tube, and oil pan installation in approximately 10 minutes from start to finish.
You don't need the oil pump gasket if you're using rtv right?

If I can get the woodruff out, I might just redo that as well. I bought a FMS and if the goal is to reseal all the things then I guess this is it way to do it...
Old May 6, 2019 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Savington
I do the entire oil pump, RMS cage, windage tray, pickup tube, and oil pan installation in approximately 10 minutes from start to finish.
+1.

Took 20 minutes the first time because I lost the bolts for the MBSP.
Old May 6, 2019 | 11:03 PM
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I was more asking if one is supposed to let the rtv set for a hot minute before torqueing to spec!
Old May 8, 2019 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche
I was more asking if one is supposed to let the rtv set for a hot minute before torqueing to spec!
I'd bet $5 if you looked on the back of the tube it would give you a recommended setup/application process.
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