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#21
Good oil companies are praised for the way engine bearings look after having used their formula. The less visual signs of wear the better, but they do all show signs. Shear strength, proper viscosity, viscosity index over time all come into play, but "oil" and "engines" are not perfect.
I certainly can't agree that if a cam has changed the surface of a journal there is a "big problem".
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Bearing and journal wear occurs almost exclusively at startup or during a period of oil starvation. Once oil pressure is built, there is no direct interaction between the bearing and the crankshaft (assuming no foreign objects in the oil that would cause such an interaction), and there's certainly not enough to let the camshaft somehow "seat" with the journal.
Your suggestion of a high-zinc/high-ZDDP oil is unnecessary as well, and it leads me to believe you don't actually understand what "breaks in" when you break in a camshaft. Zinc additives have almost nothing to do with cam journals and everything to do with the interaction between the cam lobe and the lifter. If the OP's cams are used and have already been broken in, there's no need for a break-in specific high-zinc oil, even if he is having the head journals and the camshaft polished to remove the damage.
Your suggestion of a high-zinc/high-ZDDP oil is unnecessary as well, and it leads me to believe you don't actually understand what "breaks in" when you break in a camshaft. Zinc additives have almost nothing to do with cam journals and everything to do with the interaction between the cam lobe and the lifter. If the OP's cams are used and have already been broken in, there's no need for a break-in specific high-zinc oil, even if he is having the head journals and the camshaft polished to remove the damage.
#23
Bearing and journal wear occurs almost exclusively at startup or during a period of oil starvation. Once oil pressure is built, there is no direct interaction between the bearing and the crankshaft (assuming no foreign objects in the oil that would cause such an interaction), and there's certainly not enough to let the camshaft somehow "seat" with the journal.
Your suggestion of a high-zinc/high-ZDDP oil is unnecessary as well, and it leads me to believe you don't actually understand what "breaks in" when you break in a camshaft. Zinc additives have almost nothing to do with cam journals and everything to do with the interaction between the cam lobe and the lifter. If the OP's cams are used and have already been broken in, there's no need for a break-in specific high-zinc oil, even if he is having the head journals and the camshaft polished to remove the damage.
Your suggestion of a high-zinc/high-ZDDP oil is unnecessary as well, and it leads me to believe you don't actually understand what "breaks in" when you break in a camshaft. Zinc additives have almost nothing to do with cam journals and everything to do with the interaction between the cam lobe and the lifter. If the OP's cams are used and have already been broken in, there's no need for a break-in specific high-zinc oil, even if he is having the head journals and the camshaft polished to remove the damage.
Back on topic: Zinc/ZDP is a good idea regardless of break-in, certainly contributing to the health of all journals especially if he were to attempt to clean this surface up by hand.
At any rate, sounds like the topic has moved on...
Calmdown, Best of luck with your engine.
Last edited by FAB; 02-17-2014 at 03:21 PM.
#24
Found the source: Apparently an injector decided it was unhappy with it's new placement on the fuel rail (ran fine in the MK 2/2.5 frankenstein), and didn't deliver the amount of fuel it was supposed to...
This caused Cyl 3 to run lean, and pre-det, which took a chunk out of my intake valve... which then traveled down cyl 3, and took part of the oil control ring, then got mashed by the oil pump and distributed to the cam carriers.
Unfortunately I wasn't there to see the head pulled off to witness this personally, but the guys work is fairly legendary, so I'm going to take it on face value and let him sort it. Gonna cost a bit more than I was expecting though...
This caused Cyl 3 to run lean, and pre-det, which took a chunk out of my intake valve... which then traveled down cyl 3, and took part of the oil control ring, then got mashed by the oil pump and distributed to the cam carriers.
Unfortunately I wasn't there to see the head pulled off to witness this personally, but the guys work is fairly legendary, so I'm going to take it on face value and let him sort it. Gonna cost a bit more than I was expecting though...
#25
Found the source: Apparently an injector decided it was unhappy with it's new placement on the fuel rail (ran fine in the MK 2/2.5 frankenstein), and didn't deliver the amount of fuel it was supposed to...
This caused Cyl 3 to run lean, and pre-det, which took a chunk out of my intake valve... which then traveled down cyl 3, and took part of the oil control ring, then got mashed by the oil pump and distributed to the cam carriers.
Unfortunately I wasn't there to see the head pulled off to witness this personally, but the guys work is fairly legendary, so I'm going to take it on face value and let him sort it. Gonna cost a bit more than I was expecting though...
This caused Cyl 3 to run lean, and pre-det, which took a chunk out of my intake valve... which then traveled down cyl 3, and took part of the oil control ring, then got mashed by the oil pump and distributed to the cam carriers.
Unfortunately I wasn't there to see the head pulled off to witness this personally, but the guys work is fairly legendary, so I'm going to take it on face value and let him sort it. Gonna cost a bit more than I was expecting though...
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