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Old 12-30-2017, 02:45 PM   #61
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I've been driving with my knockoff for about a month now and I have no complaints. The spring is pretty stiff but I can feel the throttle body get softer at very high vacuum like if you downshift and land at 5k-ish. These engines make some crazy vacuum.
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Old 12-30-2017, 09:35 PM   #62
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This might be a dumb question/threadjack, but in theory I could get one of these and just dremel out the bolt holes on my 1.6 intake manifold, right? I've been kinda upgrading everything around my 1.6 but only getting stuff that will swap over to the 1.8 once my 1.6 goes. I'm getting frustrated with the 1.6 IACV setup and if I'm going to change it I might as well go to the bigger TB at the same time if it will fit.
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This might be a dumb question/threadjack, but in theory I could get one of these and just dremel out the bolt holes on my 1.6 intake manifold, right? I've been kinda upgrading everything around my 1.6 but only getting stuff that will swap over to the 1.8 once my 1.6 goes. I'm getting frustrated with the 1.6 IACV setup and if I'm going to change it I might as well go to the bigger TB at the same time if it will fit.
Do you have Megasquirt? If not the TPS won't work since the 1.6 used an on/off tps while the 1.8 used a potentiometer.
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Old 12-31-2017, 09:56 PM   #64
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This might be a dumb question/threadjack, but in theory I could get one of these and just dremel out the bolt holes on my 1.6 intake manifold, right? I've been kinda upgrading everything around my 1.6 but only getting stuff that will swap over to the 1.8 once my 1.6 goes. I'm getting frustrated with the 1.6 IACV setup and if I'm going to change it I might as well go to the bigger TB at the same time if it will fit.
That doesnt work. 1. and 1.6 TB has the top holes the same but the bottem ones are on different position. You need a adapter plate.
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Old 12-31-2017, 10:01 PM   #65
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Yes, I am running a standalone EMS, and yes I understand the bolt holes don't match up, that's why I mentioned a dremel. After some further review it looks like it would be a complete new set of holes.
It was more of a question on if there is enough 'meat' in the 1.6 intake manifold TB flange for me to drill the new holes and if the ports match up. I'd just check it myself, but I don't have a 1.8 TB kicking around to test fit with.
Regardless, I don't want to threadjack this any more than I have.
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Yes, I am running a standalone EMS, and yes I understand the bolt holes don't match up, that's why I mentioned a dremel. After some further review it looks like it would be a complete new set of holes.
It was more of a question on if there is enough 'meat' in the 1.6 intake manifold TB flange for me to drill the new holes and if the ports match up. I'd just check it myself, but I don't have a 1.8 TB kicking around to test fit with.
Regardless, I don't want to threadjack this any more than I have.
The 1.6 and 1.8 holes overlap. You have to JB weld the old ones and then drill and cut new threads. A lot of work for no real benefit but its possible.
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The 1.6 and 1.8 holes overlap. You have to JB weld the old ones and then drill and cut new threads. A lot of work for no real benefit but its possible.
Awesome, this is what I was looking for. I know it seems silly, but I want to have the internally routed IACV from the newer 1.8L and if I'm going to put new stuff on, I might as well install an upgrade for 1.8 for when the 1.6L finally gives out. Thanks for the help.
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You would be a good candidate for the junk2 manifold.

1.6 mounting options, 1.8 throttle body too.,
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You would be a good candidate for the junk2 manifold.

1.6 mounting options, 1.8 throttle body too.,
What 1.6 mounting options? Different port spacing
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What 1.6 mounting options? Different port spacing
Exactly. This is why I'm getting the TB now, and drilling the stock 1.6 manifold. There's no aftermarket 1.6 manifold options because it would be dumb to buy one. I'm just buying parts that will fit on the 1.8 once the 1.6 gives out.
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What 1.6 mounting options? Different port spacing

I thought it fit the 1.6 too?
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this thread got real dumb real quick
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wasted 5 minutes of my break.
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Well I decided to try one of these too. Just a few observations that haven't been noted yet, one major: The difference in the idle screw boss location shown back in post 31 is significant enough that it doesn't line up with the matching flange on the manifold, shown installed on a squaretop:




Doesn't match up with the OEM or supplied gasket:




It's close enough that it will work if you shove some RTV in this gap, but if you don't notice you'll have a nasty vacuum leak:






Also the bore on mine is nice and smooth, unlike some others'. Still has burrs around the holes though:




Haven't taken it apart yet but I'll post back if I find anything else interesting. Pretty sure the pulley on mine is nylon or plastic of some sort.

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