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Old 06-02-2014, 06:51 PM   #61
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Ooooh ooooh! We run 10psi on a GT2554. Requires a built motor, clearly!
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It's hard to have mutual respect when you come in here spouting complete falsehoods like "the VVT engine is a little more robust."

Don't disrespect us, we won't disrespect you.
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OMG, really, it doen't matter how big the turbo is, 10psi is 10 psi, how are the two numbers different at the manifold? the only thing different is the speed at which each turbo is spinning that's it. it really matters about where the turbo is most efficient man,
spool time, and speed the compressor is spinning is the only different things, and wether or not it the turbo will be in it's or out of it's effeciency range.

10psi is 10psi once it reaches the combustion chamber, differences? compressor speed? ECU calibration on how the ECU sees' it, and alterations that are made by the computer, 10psi is 10 psi no matter which way you slice it my friend.
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you're saying the VVT engine isn't more robust? call kieth tanner and tell him that man, he won't want to hear a thing you say. IT'S MORE ROBUST.
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how is saying a certian engine more robust disrespecting you?
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ROFL how much deeper can you dig yourself dude?

In all that you still didn't mention the only thing that ACTUALLY matters, which is airflow. Pressure means nothing, the amount of air it flows is the only thing that matters.

Are you talking about the MBSP? Because that doesn't actually make the engine more robust. It has the same weak rods as every BP, and won't hold any more torque than any other engine. NA 1.8 with 5,000,000,000 miles on it: weak point is the rods. BP06 with 0 miles on it: weak point is the same rods. It's no more robust.
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I didn't post on your thread, or say anything about your car, it had nothing to do with you, you shouldn't have had nothing to say about it., like my previous posts said, you can come to me, or i'll come to you.
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we'll see who knows more and put all this to rest,,
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Yes you are right my friend, you know what that's called? efficiency range.... read the posts.
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OMG, really, it doen't matter how big the turbo is, 10psi is 10 psi, how are the two numbers different at the manifold? the only thing different is the speed at which each turbo is spinning that's it. it really matters about where the turbo is most efficient man,
spool time, and speed the compressor is spinning is the only different things, and wether or not it the turbo will be in it's or out of it's effeciency range.

10psi is 10psi once it reaches the combustion chamber, differences? compressor speed? ECU calibration on how the ECU sees' it, and alterations that are made by the computer, 10psi is 10 psi no matter which way you slice it my friend.
You are an idiot.

This very post I just quoted speaks volumes about it.

If I was being harsh before, I'm about to re-define the meaning for you
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That has nothing to do with the fact, 10psi is 10psi, a smalled turbo will have to spin faster to make it, a larger one not so much, and if it's to large will be laggy as hell. what in the world are you guys talking about? I'm sorry I am talking to bonified NOOBS right now, and no longer want to waste my time, from the way you guys are talking I could have guessed that you would be somewhat legitiment. Fooled me.
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I didn't post on your thread, or say anything about your car, it had nothing to do with you, you shouldn't have had nothing to say about it., like my previous posts said, you can come to me, or i'll come to you.
I'm in CA.

Come on down. Right now.

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I'm going to address each of these that really should have just been one post, merely on the account that you can't seem to find where the huge "EDIT" button is on each of your posts.

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OMG, really, it doen't matter how big the turbo is, 10psi is 10 psi, how are the two numbers different at the manifold? the only thing different is the speed at which each turbo is spinning that's it. it really matters about where the turbo is most efficient man,
spool time, and speed the compressor is spinning is the only different things, and wether or not it the turbo will be in it's or out of it's effeciency range.

10psi is 10psi once it reaches the combustion chamber, differences? compressor speed? ECU calibration on how the ECU sees' it, and alterations that are made by the computer, 10psi is 10 psi no matter which way you slice it my friend.
This is the dumbest **** i've ever seen. It's disrespectful that you can even lie to us and say that you have 15 years of experience with these cars and then tell us this bullshit.


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you're saying the VVT engine isn't more robust? call kieth tanner and tell him that man, he won't want to hear a thing you say. IT'S MORE ROBUST.
Keith will say the same thing we all say. It'll blow up at the same power level. Because rods. I'm also quite sure that Keith, that despite being a very nice Canadian man, would probably not be super happy at you throwing his name around like you guys are best buds, despite the fact that you don't seem to have learned a damn thing from him.

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how is saying a certian engine more robust disrespecting you?
Because you're pushing ignorance upon us, assuming that we don't know any better and will just believe your crap.

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I didn't post on your thread, or say anything about your car, it had nothing to do with you, you shouldn't have had nothing to say about it., like my previous posts said, you can come to me, or i'll come to you.
Lulz. Come at me bro, amirite?

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we'll see who knows more and put all this to rest,,
I find it amusing that you're posting this like this is going to happen in the future. We've already seen who knows more.

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Yes you are right my friend, you know what that's called? efficiency range.... read the posts.
You use that phrase, i'm not sure you know what it means.
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Lol. You do realize that part of the turbo is on the exhaust side right?
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volume? come on man, if you are running a boost controller that is only allowing 10 psi into the system, gues what 10 psi is 10 psi, your engine itself is the determining fator on volume as it mechanically can only let so much (air/volume) in.

10 psi is 10psi brother.
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volume? come on man, if you are running a boost controller that is only allowing 10 psi into the system, gues what 10 psi is 10 psi, your engine itself is the determining fator on volume as it mechanically can only let so much (air/volume) in.

10 psi is 10psi brother.
brother implies we are of the same species.

we are not.

Youre are too stupid to be human.

You are an eggplant

10psi =/= 10psi when it relates to air pumps, such as engines.
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That has nothing to do with the fact, 10psi is 10psi,
No.

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a smalled turbo will have to spin faster to make it, a larger one not so much,
So?

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and if it's to large will be laggy as hell.
Duh.

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what in the world are you guys talking about? I'm sorry I am talking to bonified
Ahem: "bonafide."

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NOOBS right now
The ironing. It burns.

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, and no longer want to waste my time,
Waste your time doing what? Posting bullshit for us to laugh at? Or do you think you're teaching us things?

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from the way you guys are talking I could have guessed that you would be somewhat legitiment. Fooled me.
Ahem: "Legitimate."


Post like you have an IQ above eggplant and it might not hurt so bad.



Also: Eggplant.
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Yea, I realize that, but once 10 psi has been achieved, the controller will dump all else, the turbo itseld can flow so much air, and create so much volume but other things in the system regulate that. 10psi is 10psi, here come,,,,, let me show you.
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Yea, I realize that, but once 10 psi has been achieved, the controller will dump all else, the turbo itseld can flow so much air, and create so much volume but other things in the system regulate that. 10psi is 10psi, here come,,,,, let me show you.

I know you think this, because you said you need a 94-97 motor for 11.00psi, and a VVT motor for 10.99psi and below.

But your thinking is wrong. Just stop.
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so you're telling me a turbo with a bigger compressor outlet doesn't let more air out at the same pressure?

learn something new every day.
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