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Old 03-28-2011, 01:58 PM   #1
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I plan to E85 my car here in the near future, and am looking at injectors right now. I know DW is a relatively new player in the Injectors for us in that size (Within the past year I believe) and I was wondering if the ID's were worth the extra dough. I remember someone saying that they wish they would have just waited for these to come out. Anyways, If anyone has any input of the DW1000's since that is what I am leaning toward, mainly because of price, or has had them, and switched them out for ID's because they didn't like them, let me know. I want this to be a one time purchase thing, and I don't want to keep changing injectors every year. Of course I searched, I found bits and pieces, but no thread on what I was looking for, so I thought we could all put it here. Thanks.

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I'm kicking myself in the head every day for not waiting a month and getting these.
If I could get my money back for my ID 1000's id sell them literally right now and order a set of DW's.


Anyone want some ID 1000's?
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everyone kept telling me to get ID's, cause nothing that big would idle right. i got rc1200s and you cant even tell my cars running half the time....lol.... i did look into dw's but i dont think they where out when i got these, that or i never noticed them....lol...
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Shueind is running DW 1000cc injectors.
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Shueind is running DW 1000cc injectors.
I am and I am running full sequential fuel and spark and idle fine right around 14.7AFR. The injectors seem to be fine and have no real problems so far. I am only planning on running 93octane and not E85 though. Mostly because there are no relatively local E85 stations near me.

What EMS are you running?
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That post you quoted of me is a bit misleading.
Aside from the price premium over dw I'm VERY happy with my ID1000's. They idle better than my rx7 460's did and get the job done like a champ.. Only thing I don't like about them is price, but you gotta pay to play I guess.

I'd have tried the DW's and even talked with them a few times about it, but each time they didn't have a specific date of release, and I wanted to get my **** running asap so I got these.
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That post you quoted of me is a bit misleading.
Aside from the price premium over dw I'm VERY happy with my ID1000's. They idle better than my rx7 460's did and get the job done like a champ.. Only thing I don't like about them is price, but you gotta pay to play I guess.

I'd have tried the DW's and even talked with them a few times about it, but each time they didn't have a specific date of release, and I wanted to get my **** running asap so I got these.

I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth... That is just all the remarks I found about them. I am running just a basic MSPNP, but I figure it is up to the task even if i run non sequential. But... I have a few E85 stations local, and am looking forward to running it. I figure for a trip, I could just switch back to a separate pump gas tune.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but the IDs are just flow matched DW injectors. I have IDs.
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I am running just a basic MSPNP, but I figure it is up to the task even if i run non sequential.

enjoy your smooth 12:1 AFR idle
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enjoy your smooth 12:1 AFR idle
FWIW before I went sequential I was able to idle at 14.7:1 with the ID injectors.

BTW thread drift but running sequential fuel and spark VERY NOTICEABLY smoothed up my engine. Doesn't even sound as rough as it used to.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but the IDs are just flow matched DW injectors. I have IDs.
Nope.. They are very different
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I want to go sequential, but lack funding right now. It is on the list.
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I want to go sequential, but lack funding right now. It is on the list.
I would honestly work on going with MS3x before I went with bigger injectors.
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I went with ID 1000s and was very happy. With that being said, I'd make the same choice again even if the DW 1000s were free.
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I went with ID 1000s and was very happy. With that being said, I'd make the same choice again even if the DW 1000s were free.
Why?
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Why?
Yes why? I was looking more for technical specs that would help my decision. Craig said that the ID's were EV14 bosch injectors re dressed for our car. How do the guts of the DW injectors compare to these?
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I went with ID 1000s and was very happy. With that being said, I'd make the same choice again even if the DW 1000s were free.
Curious as to why as well.

We run a LOT of DW stuff in Subarus at work...they are a quality, reliable product.
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My DW 600s show a significant shift in dead-time after they're heatsoaking.
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FWIW before I went sequential I was able to idle at 14.7:1 with the ID injectors.
Why does it even matter what AFR you idle at? I don't think that even should be part of the purchasing criteria. Yah!
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Why does it even matter what AFR you idle at? I don't think that even should be part of the purchasing criteria. Yah!
Seeing as how the most common size of ID injector is the ID1000, I think he was trying to suggest that he can idle it reliably even with big injectors, try that with an EV1 style injector.
Yah!
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fae are you arguing with yourself?
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